This is Ukraine - Do not Panic.

[Rufus_the_dawg]

yes I agree David, but no light was shone on trump and he showed his hand when instigated the attack on the white house.

Trump and populism shows the failings of democracy and people just voting for their tribe. It happens in this country every election.

[Nick]

Sounds like the Russian troops in the North of Ukraine are just being redeployed to the Eastern front.

[Rufus_the_dawg]

British missile shoots down Russian helicopter. This is proxy war with NATO now. Lets hope Putin dies of cancer real soon.

[David L]

Sounds like the Russian troops in the North of Ukraine are just being redeployed to the Eastern front.

So, if you take the 'alternative narrative', the Kyiv assault was always a ploy to draw Ukrainian troops away from the south east which is the region of most importance to Russia

[Nick]

No they ballsed it up and need to find an alternative win position.

[David L]

No they ballsed it up and need to find an alternative win position.

It would be better if there was no-win option for Russia but likely they will gain some territory.
The best indication of failure would be Putin to be replaced IMHO. Still time for that to happen but probably unlikely.
If Zelensky surrenders Donbass, Azov will not be happy, apparently they threatened his life when that was considered earlier.

[Nick]

Shocking scenes of civilian killings in Bucha.

[Nickslikk2112]

Shocking scenes of civilian killings in Bucha.

That was the UKranonazi Azov battalion doing it to their own side. The Russian special military operation operatives have not harmed any civilians.

[Rufus_the_dawg]

No they ballsed it up and need to find an alternative win position.

It would be better if there was no-win option for Russia but likely they will gain some territory.
The best indication of failure would be Putin to be replaced IMHO. Still time for that to happen but probably unlikely.
If Zelensky surrenders Donbass, Azov will not be happy, apparently they threatened his life when that was considered earlier.

Apparently it will end up a no win war with Russia and Ukraine fighting over the territory for years, this is what Putin wants.

[Slim]

The Americans would be happy enough with that. They'll keep providing the necessary weapons for as long as the Ukrainians want to continue degrading Russian military assets with it.

[David L]

No they ballsed it up and need to find an alternative win position.

It would be better if there was no-win option for Russia but likely they will gain some territory.
The best indication of failure would be Putin to be replaced IMHO. Still time for that to happen but probably unlikely.
If Zelensky surrenders Donbass, Azov will not be happy, apparently they threatened his life when that was considered earlier.

Apparently it will end up a no win war with Russia and Ukraine fighting over the territory for years, this is what Putin wants.

Why?

[dom]

Shocking scenes of civilian killings in Bucha.

That was the UKranonazi Azov battalion doing it to their own side. The Russian special military operation operatives have not harmed any civilians.

Are you certain of that? Sounds like it comes from a putin apologist/sympathiser

[Rufus_the_dawg]

No they ballsed it up and need to find an alternative win position.

It would be better if there was no-win option for Russia but likely they will gain some territory.
The best indication of failure would be Putin to be replaced IMHO. Still time for that to happen but probably unlikely.
If Zelensky surrenders Donbass, Azov will not be happy, apparently they threatened his life when that was considered earlier.

Apparently it will end up a no win war with Russia and Ukraine fighting over the territory for years, this is what Putin wants.

Why?

Because he needs war for his own popularity at home and if they can not settle the borders and keep fighting Ukraine can not join the EU or Nato

[dom]

Very Orwellian

[Nickslikk2112]

Shocking scenes of civilian killings in Bucha.

That was the UKranonazi Azov battalion doing it to their own side. The Russian special military operation operatives have not harmed any civilians.

Are you certain of that? Sounds like it comes from a putin apologist/sympathiser

https://www.rt.com/russia/553231-bucha-war-crimes-allegations-denied/

There's some very interesting stuff on RT, the comments are pure comedy gold - or would be if they weren't so scary.

And when Russia switches to a Gold backed Rouble it's going to be a game changer. The Dollar based western economies will collapse.

https://www.rt.com/business/553099-gold-backed-ruble-gamechanger-west/