This is Ukraine - Do not Panic.

[Rufus_the_dawg]

If you watch the video after the initial explosion another Russian ship trys to get out of the way, you really do get the feeling the Russians are inept.

Russians remind me of the school bully, if you stand up to them they fall apart. Putin really has misjudged the west.

[Nick]

Despite all the social media images of destroyed Russian tanks you have to remember they have 12500 of them! Makes the mind boggle.

[David L]

Despite all the social media images of destroyed Russian tanks you have to remember they have 12500 of them! Makes the mind boggle.

Well, that's what they told us they had   

[David L]

Joe Biden. What an abject performance this crisis has produced from the leader of the free world. All over the place

[Slim]

True. I hope the Americans never have such an awful dilemma again.

[Rufus_the_dawg]

Joe Biden. What an abject performance this crisis has produced from the leader of the free world. All over the place

Apparently in Poland his speech went down very well.

It was a no brainer between Trump and Biden. Proven by Trump trying to bring down democracy in the USA. Yes of course both were poor candidates, just like in the UK- "Boris" and Corbyn both utterly dreadful.

[David L]

Joe Biden. What an abject performance this crisis has produced from the leader of the free world. All over the place

Apparently in Poland his speech went down very well.

It was a no brainer between Trump and Biden. Proven by Trump trying to bring down democracy in the USA.

You don't believe the collusion between US MSM and the Biden campaign to suppress the Hunter Biden story before the election and interference with democracy?

[Slim]

Even if that's true and I can't be bothered to check, though it does sound credible to be fair - there's a huge difference between a media outlet or number of media outlets suppressing or spinning a story to try and influence the public and the President of the United States trying to overcome an election result in which he's already been defeated.

Trump should be in prison now.

[David L]

Even if that's true and I can't be bothered to check, though it does sound credible to be fair - there's a huge difference between a media outlet or number of media outlets suppressing or spinning a story to try and influence the public and the President of the United States trying to overcome an election result in which he's already been defeated.

Trump should be in prison now.

Perhaps in the cell next to 'Sleepy' and son? 

For the integrity of the democratic process in the US, I know which one I'd consider more important. And you could argue one begat the other

[Rufus_the_dawg]

Do mean the affair that meant Trump broke the law and ended up impeaching himself.

And where is Trumps tax returns, the person who lost the election was Trump. He lost the womens' and Black vote.

Slim is right Trump should be in prison. Hopefully they will eventually put him there.

[pdw1]

Joe Biden. What an abject performance this crisis has produced from the leader of the free world. All over the place

Apparently in Poland his speech went down very well.

It was a no brainer between Trump and Biden. Proven by Trump trying to bring down democracy in the USA.

You don't believe the collusion between US MSM and the Biden campaign to suppress the Hunter Biden story before the election and interference with democracy?

I don't believe in fairy tales

[David L]

I don't believe in fairy tales

   
Many do though, including previous non-believers, The New York Times

https://thefederalist.com/2022/03/25/4-big-takeaways-from-nyts-attempt-to-control-the-hunter-biden-narrative/

Nefarious Ukrainian connections also clear:

https://nypost.com/2020/10/14/email-reveals-how-hunter-biden-introduced-ukrainian-biz-man-to-dad/

https://nypost.com/2020/10/14/hunter-biden-emails-show-leveraging-connections-with-dad-to-boost-burisma-pay/

Trump had to go, by whatever means possible

[David L]

I'm beginning to think that Kamala Harris's 'handlers' are intentionally keeping her away from the media during this crisis (?) Very absent

[Rufus_the_dawg]

Maybe its all true, but Trump has flushed so much shit down the proverbial toilet he can not be defended. People try to make out Trump is an outsider and how far can that be from the truth. He's a multi billionaire real estate magnet, who is a celebrity. Who lost the national vote the first time around.

& The man oversaw won of the worst CV19 pandemic responses the world.

I would rather have Kamila Harris in charge than the grinning idiot Mike Pence. What I am more worried about is UK politics going the way of USA, divisive with shameless liars.

[David L]

Maybe its all true, but Trump has flushed so much shit down the proverbial toilet he can not be defended. People try to make out Trump is an outsider and how far can that be from the truth. He's a multi billionaire real estate magnet, who is a celebrity. Who lost the national vote the first time around.

& The man oversaw won of the worst CV19 pandemic responses the world.

I would rather have Kamila Harris in charge than the grinning idiot Mike Pence. What I am more worried about is UK politics going the way of USA, divisive with shameless liars.

Not defending him, Rufus, just pointing out that if you want a light shone on Trump's business and tax affairs, you should consider it only fair for a light to be shone on Biden's also. That didn't happen, even when there were some pretty large red flags