Artificial Intelligence Music

Started by Slim, June 13, 2024, 11:52:23 AM

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Slim

This is ear-boggling. Have a listen to some of the music samples. Lyrics, instrumentation, vocals - all generated by AI.

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Thenop

It is and it is scary and should be useless. I just read a quote from someone saying:
want AI to do my laundry and dishes so that I can do art and writing, not for AI to do my art and writing so that I can do my laundry and dishes.


Slim

What I'd really like is to be able to feed it chords - let's say I want two bars of CMaj7, then a bar of B half diminished then E7 .. and so on. Just tell it what I want in English like that. Ask it to make it sound like a jazz piano quartet but leave space for a guitar.

Then when it comes back with something you could say "good, but make the verse a bit more punchy and the whole thing a bit faster. Make it swing a bit more in the chorus".

It must be possible. Would be a fantastic compositional tool. Maybe it's already available. Actually Band in a Box can do that - sort of - but you can't give it instructions in natural English.
H5N1 kIlled a wild swan

The Picnic Wasp

I love Rick Beato's videos. As someone who struggled with Cubase on my Atari, I am fascinated by successful manipulation and creation of music by machines. The weak individual in me loves the concept of AI being able to produce fresh music from my library of addiction. Imagine a new version of Circumstances which isn't a cover but instead new material with all those subtle variations and regularities, with a thick layer of young Geddy on top. However, the spiritual part of my makeup (which I refuse to let go of) is quite frightened by this. It does shout rather than whisper end-times to me. The prophesied period where nothing can be guaranteed as real, where truth is distorted beyond imagination, and where communication becomes almost impossible in a sea of babble. If it was controllable and measurable beyond reproach then it would be fine but unfortunately I believe it's a dangerous slippery slope to some disaster.

Slim

Picnic, your glass is always half empty.
H5N1 kIlled a wild swan

The Picnic Wasp


Thenop



The Picnic Wasp

This was on my YouTube feed this evening,

https://youtu.be/9dbHLy2z5J0?si=I7utB5jKjtGZKt12

As a lifelong fan of Queen I was stunned to discover this extended version of Lily Of The Valley, one of Freddie's greatest works. I find it quite difficult not to become emotional whenever I hear it. The original is very short so I was intrigued as to why additional verses would end up on the cutting room floor. The new parts took the song in a slightly different direction with the transition from the album version into the new territory slightly clumsy, as were some of the lyrics. I thought perhaps that is why they were discarded, Freddie being the utter perfectionist.

Then it dawned. It's AI. Very, very clever AI, but not from the mind of a genius but rather a piece of software. I find this extremely upsetting. Like trying to capture a human soul in a jar. We are on a dangerous road. No good can come of this.




Matt2112

Quote from: Slim on June 13, 2024, 01:35:37 PMWhat I'd really like is to be able to feed it chords - let's say I want two bars of CMaj7, then a bar of B half diminished then E7 .. and so on. Just tell it what I want in English like that. Ask it to make it sound like a jazz piano quartet but leave space for a guitar.

Then when it comes back with something you could say "good, but make the verse a bit more punchy and the whole thing a bit faster. Make it swing a bit more in the chorus".

It must be possible. Would be a fantastic compositional tool. Maybe it's already available. Actually Band in a Box can do that - sort of - but you can't give it instructions in natural English.

That's enormously exciting in principle, I just wonder if it's still an efficient use of time, as to explain the musical sound in your head to something that (presumably) doesn't have any intuition or empathy could be a laborious process.  I'd love to try it though and see.

A few weeks ago I (long story short) used an AI app mentioned in the Image Creation thread to create a movie poster for a film idea I have; I had a firm concept and theme of the image I wanted and added more and more detail to my description, my expectation being of course that it would be progressively fine-tuned toward the end result I wanted.  But I found that it had a habit of taking a step back rather than forwards and I ended up abandoning the whole process.