Pharma watch

[David L]

No doubt a drop in the ocean for £fizer:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-13397133/Pfizer-agrees-settle-10-000-lawsuits-accusing-pharma-giant-hiding-cancer-risks-heartburn-drug-Zantac.html

[David L]

Ozempic anyone? Not only can you be skinny but you can prevent a heart attack. Uncanny coincidence, just as heart issues on the increase. What side-effects? 

In three of the four quarters of 2023, the Danish company delivered the sharpest revenue increase among biopharma's top 25 companies ranked by market capitalization. For the full year, Novo delivered a 31% increase in sales, reaching 232 billion Danish kroner ($33.7 billion).

[David L]

https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/gsk-pay-1-7bn-settle-180940369.html?guccounter=1

[David L]

Government-sanctioned fat-loss jabs contributed to woman's death. How unsurprising

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cz6jg6nw2zeo#:~:text=The%20death%20of%20a%20nurse,her%20death%20on%204%20September.

[Nick]

But how many has it saved by reducing death by being overweight?

[David L]

But how many has it saved by reducing death by being overweight?

Not as many as could be saved by eating less and moving more

[Nick]

That involves a painful process. Surely a short cut is more likely to reap the benefits faster for those not inclined to put the long slog work in?

[David L]

That involves a painful process. Surely a short cut is more likely to reap the benefits faster for those not inclined to put the long slog work in?

Quite possibly a dangerous short cut 

[Slim]

I'm on both sides of the fence on this. Definitely, I agree that people ought to be able to avoid becoming obese without taking drugs. On the other hand, since in some cases apparently they can't, I can't blame the drug companies for manufacturing products to help them, and any drug can have side effects.

[Nick]

That involves a painful process. Surely a short cut is more likely to reap the benefits faster for those not inclined to put the long slog work in?

Quite possibly a dangerous short cut 

Let's see how the stats pan out over time

[David L]

That involves a painful process. Surely a short cut is more likely to reap the benefits faster for those not inclined to put the long slog work in?

Quite possibly a dangerous short cut 

Let's see how the stats pan out over time

That sounds sensible but are the stats being ignored nowadays? The following paper discusses the threshold at which pharma products have been withdrawn due to causing deaths:

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/09246479241292008

[Slim]

That involves a painful process. Surely a short cut is more likely to reap the benefits faster for those not inclined to put the long slog work in?

Quite possibly a dangerous short cut 

Let's see how the stats pan out over time

That sounds sensible but are the stats being ignored nowadays? The following paper discusses the threshold at which pharma products have been withdrawn due to causing deaths:

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/09246479241292008

That's been written by an anti-vaxxer; it's not a credible journal. Funnily enough only on Friday I was watching a video on YouTube which referred to dodgy journals and papers turning up on sites like these, by the thousand.

Clues:

"In our current and remarkable period of medical history, excess mortality figures are high in many countries. Yet these statistics receive limited attention, often ignored or dismissed by mainstream news outlets. This excess mortality may include adverse effects caused by novel pharmaceutical agents that use gene-code technology."

"Strong science, characterised by open mindedness, objectivity, curiosity and freedom of debate, can be corrupted by capitalist opportunism, deception, political ideology and censorship."

And generally it pushes the message that the vaccines are the cause of excess mortality figures, which has been debunked many times. Please do check sources for disinformation before posting.

[Nick]

Ironically I was trying to open the site to check it's scientific validity but as I am in China it's censored! The good news is BTW is uncensored.

[David L]

That involves a painful process. Surely a short cut is more likely to reap the benefits faster for those not inclined to put the long slog work in?

Quite possibly a dangerous short cut 

Let's see how the stats pan out over time

That sounds sensible but are the stats being ignored nowadays? The following paper discusses the threshold at which pharma products have been withdrawn due to causing deaths:

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/09246479241292008

That's been written by an anti-vaxxer; it's not a credible journal. Funnily enough only on Friday I was watching a video on YouTube which referred to dodgy journals and papers turning up on sites like these, by the thousand.

Clues:

"In our current and remarkable period of medical history, excess mortality figures are high in many countries. Yet these statistics receive limited attention, often ignored or dismissed by mainstream news outlets. This excess mortality may include adverse effects caused by novel pharmaceutical agents that use gene-code technology."

"Strong science, characterised by open mindedness, objectivity, curiosity and freedom of debate, can be corrupted by capitalist opportunism, deception, political ideology and censorship."

And generally it pushes the message that the vaccines are the cause of excess mortality figures, which has been debunked many times. Please do check sources for disinformation before posting.

Is the data presented incorrect?

[Slim]

Is the data presented incorrect?

Probably, but the interpretation certainly is.