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Started by Thenop, April 15, 2024, 09:28:34 AM

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Fishy

Yep Gilmour should be good.. I see he has a Pat Metheny interview as well..
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Quote from: Slim on November 15, 2024, 12:57:27 PMLooking forward to this. David is a very articulate player but very limited, it's a shame he never learned to break out of the blues scale. That gift for economy and phrasing could have been really special if he had a deeper and broader understanding of music.

I'm trying my best to understand your take on this but not quite getting there. Surely these limitations, if that's what they are, make him the David Gilmour so loved by millions, playing the kind of music that most importantly he is passionate about. It's why I put him light years ahead of, Vai, Satriani, Govan et al, despite their technical ability and musical knowledge. I'll always prefer Lerxst, Brian May and classic rock type guitarists for their feel and melodic genius. After I read your post all I could think to do was Google, "is David Gilmour a good guitarist?" Google says he is!

Slim

In my opinion:

David doesn't have a melodic genius, he plays tasteful lines in the strict limitations of the blues paradigm. He phrases nicely.

Those other guitar players you mention have a much deeper feel for and understanding of music and all three of them can inhabit a piece of music in a way that David never could. Check this out, this is Guthrie improvising over a ballad called Time to Let Her Go. What he plays brings out the colour notes in the chords; it's sympathetic to the tension and release inherent in the music, it harmonises sympathetically to the chord changes while having an exquisite melodic narrative in its own right. It's brilliant. He'd never have to get Lee Ritenour in to help him finish a solo because he'd painted himself into a corner.




By contrast David is something like a chess player who only know how to move the pawns.

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The Picnic Wasp

Quote from: Slim on November 16, 2024, 12:45:22 AMIn my opinion:

David doesn't have a melodic genius, he plays tasteful lines in the strict limitations of the blues paradigm. He phrases nicely.

Those other guitar players you mention have a much deeper feel for and understanding of music and all three of them can inhabit a piece of music in a way that David never could. Check this out, this is Guthrie improvising over a ballad called Time to Let Her Go. What he plays brings out the colour notes in the chords; it's sympathetic to the tension and release inherent in the music, it harmonises sympathetically to the chord changes while having an exquisite melodic narrative in its own right. It's brilliant. He'd never have to get Lee Ritenour in to help him finish a solo because he'd painted himself into a corner.




By contrast David is something like a chess player who only know how to move the pawns.



I agree with you, it's brilliant, but I couldn't listen to it all night. One of the best guitar pieces I have ever experienced is on one of those CDs which used to come with Guitarist magazine. I have dozens of them, but Joe Satriani appeared as a guest on one issue. He played an improvised part over a backing track he had only heard once. It's incredible. I'd never heard such free flowing on the spot creativity. It made me look into his career and I watched a video of him tutoring a young guitarist who had won a competition to have a lesson with Joe. His knowledge of the entire structure of music was mind blowing. It sounded like an interview with Beethoven or Mozart. He is talented on another level but I enjoy him more when he plays stuff like the Neil Young cover with Grace Potter. I don't know what made me think of this but Geddy said something really funny once about some of the more complex Rush material, "you can dance to it, but you'll hurt yourself". I suppose it's all down to how are brains are wired. Personal taste probably isn't our own choice but dictated.

Nickslikk2112

All I can say is, is that when I've seen David "Don't Call me Dave" Gilmour live, when he starts playing the hairs on the back of my neck stand up.

It's him, you know it's him and he does what he does better than anyone else.

Thenop

So... Gilmour's interview is up


Thenop

About half way in and it is very entertaining. Gilmour's not the easiest to open up as I understand, and I have never really seen an in-depth interview done, but Beato manages to get him talking in a matter of minutes.
Great stuff again!

Nickslikk2112

Yes, a good watch, watched it whilst eating my lunch.
From what I've read elsewhere, Gilmour seems to be a bit more chatty and open these days.

Fishy

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