Football

[Slim]

Strong stuff from Forest. I applaud them for speaking out.

[The Picnic Wasp]

Strong stuff from Forest. I applaud them for speaking out.

Good for Forest for calling this insidious back room operation out. VAR is ruining football. Fans can't even celebrate a goal being scored properly until some faceless expert runs a rule over things. Some of the Scottish stats on decisions are beyond belief. The whole set up stinks.

[dom]

VAR is supposed to reduce human error.  In fact it has put additional humans into the chain thereby increasing human error!

[Thenop]

Our manager at Feyenoord is now being rumoured to be the next Liverpool manager. Not happy, obviously, but it is well deserved if he went. Let's see how he gets on then.
Mind you, nothing has been decided or signed.

Not a fan of the rumour mill at all, but this sounded credible considering the source here in the Netherlands.

[pxr5]

Our manager at Feyenoord is now being rumoured to be the next Liverpool manager. Not happy, obviously, but it is well deserved if he went. Let's see how he gets on then.
Mind you, nothing has been decided or signed.

Not a fan of the rumour mill at all, but this sounded credible considering the source here in the Netherlands.

The BBC are reporting on it too:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cnl4ql0p4pqo

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c72plnjy4qeo

[Thenop]

What he should not do is make the same mistake that all Dutch coaches make: bring over too much players he has been working with. Having said that I would not be surprised if Geertruida would follow him, and he would poach Kokcu from Benfica, both of which were team captains for him.

[The Picnic Wasp]

What he should not do is make the same mistake that all Dutch coaches make: bring over too much players he has been working with. Having said that I would not be surprised if Geertruida would follow him, and he would poach Kokcu from Benfica, both of which were team captains for him.

Totally understand this argument, Nop, but Wim Jensen arriving in Glasgow and then stealing Henrik Larsson for £650,000 resulted in such a happy period of football memory for me. Not just the achievements in terms of trophies, but the display of unbridled talent was something precious to many Glaswegians. He stayed seven years. Unimaginable in today's money driven game, but I'm so glad he reached the ultimate prize in the European game. I think Alex Ferguson heaped huge praise on him recently. The ultimate professional. A former colleague's son worked for a time at the famous Gleneagles Hotel. Henrik and his family came for lunch. They chatted briefly about football and his waiter declared his love for Rangers. Henrik left him a £50 tip. Classy guy and footballer of sublime talent. Wim Jensen RIP and thank you. And thank you Feijenoord, but not for 1970.

[Thenop]

What he should not do is make the same mistake that all Dutch coaches make: bring over too much players he has been working with. Having said that I would not be surprised if Geertruida would follow him, and he would poach Kokcu from Benfica, both of which were team captains for him.

Totally understand this argument, Nop, but Wim Jensen arriving in Glasgow and then stealing Henrik Larsson for £650,000 resulted in such a happy period of football memory for me. Not just the achievements in terms of trophies, but the display of unbridled talent was something precious to many Glaswegians. He stayed seven years. Unimaginable in today's money driven game, but I'm so glad he reached the ultimate prize in the European game. I think Alex Ferguson heaped huge praise on him recently. The ultimate professional. A former colleague's son worked for a time at the famous Gleneagles Hotel. Henrik and his family came for lunch. They chatted briefly about football and his waiter declared his love for Rangers. Henrik left him a £50 tip. Classy guy and footballer of sublime talent. Wim Jensen RIP and thank you. And thank you Feijenoord, but not for 1970.

Wim Jansen was a great player and a great coach. Cruyff learned a lot from him believe it or not.
And of course I remember Larsson quite well, he was well talented and brought us some success too.

And of course we in Rotterdam are happy to oblige, especially with the 1970 Cup that has prominent place in the stadium 

[Thenop]

That was fast... Our coach is leaving and joining Liverpool to succeed Klopp.

[Slim]

The Premier League bottom 4. All have played 36 games now. I was looking for Forest to do better than Luton this weekend, and they've delivered.

There's also the tantalising prospect of getting a point back from the appeal against the four point deduction.

[Thenop]

Watched a fantastic game on TV tonight. Full stadium, as always, Sunday night, lovely weather and a 5-0 won.
Crowd were in their best of moods, singing and cheering on. Even though we have 2 matched to go it felt like a goodbye to our coach who was visibly moved by it all.

Football can be so beautiful like this. Or, as one of our sports commentators from days past always said: "football is the most important side issue in life".

[The Picnic Wasp]

I was always puzzled by the former Celtic player, Jan Vennegoor Of Hesselink's name. Looked it up last night and discovered that of is Dutch for or. Seems there was a marriage between two well to do families, the Vennegoors and the Hesselinks and they decided to keep both names. I'd mistakenly assumed that Hesselink was a place until now.

[Thenop]

I was always puzzled by the former Celtic player, Jan Vennegoor Of Hesselink's name. Looked it up last night and discovered that of is Dutch for or. Seems there was a marriage between two well to do families, the Vennegoors and the Hesselinks and they decided to keep both names. I'd mistakenly assumed that Hesselink was a place until now.

Very old Dutch though, the 'of' (or) is not in use when referring to names anymore. Instead, marriage nowadays gives many options to choose from: You either keep your own last name, or you combine the 2 surnames with a hyphen. And that goes either way.
So: my name is de Jong, and say my wife's is Jansen (it's not but for argument's sake), I can keep my name: de Jong, I can add my wife's name (de Jong-Jansen or Jansen-de Jong) or I can take on my wife's family name.
Same goes for my wife.

Back to football then.

[The Picnic Wasp]

I think I might add a hyphenated Jansen to my name in honour of the late great, Wim.

[Slim]

If they get beaten on the last day, Forest will stay up with 29 points.