This is Ukraine - Do not Panic.

[David L]

82% of downed Iranian drones used by Russia in Ukraine were made in the US

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2022/12/21/politics/iranian-drones-russia-biden-task-force-us-tech-ukraine/index.html

Hey! It don't matter which side you're on...... if it makes you money!

$$$$$$$       

[Slim]

Well, there's a sense in which that 82% claim is correct, but it's also true in another sense to say that none of the drones used by Russia in that conflict were made in the US.

I can't see how Texas Instruments, Intel, Hewlett Packard or any other provider of processors, motherboards, camera sensors, lithium power cells or whatever else can prevent their stuff ending up in the hands of the Russians once it leaves their own distributors. The article doesn't claim that they have directly or intentionally indirectly supplied the Russian armed forces, or the Iranians who apparently make the drones.

[David L]

Well, there's a sense in which that 82% claim is correct, but it's also true in another sense to say that none of the drones used by Russia in that conflict were made in the US.

I understood that from the get go. My tongue was partly in my cheek with this one.

I'm sure Joe will get to the bottom of it anyway.

"No Mr. President. The Iranians!
We explained this to you yesterday, the Ukranians are on our side"

[David L]

Sellensky

https://jacobin.com/2023/01/ukraine-postwar-reconstruction-western-capital-blackrock-neoliberalism

[David L]

Just dropped (and, unsurprisingly, immediately dismissed by the Whitehouse):

https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/Seymour-Hersh-Unveils-the-Mystery-of-the-Nord-Stream-Pipeline-20230208-0011.html

 


https://news.sky.com/video/get-nord-stream-out-of-the-bloodstream-says-prime-minister-as-russia-ukraine-crisis-intensifies-12541960

[Nickslikk2112]

Just dropped (and, unsurprisingly, immediately dismissed by the Whitehouse):

https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/Seymour-Hersh-Unveils-the-Mystery-of-the-Nord-Stream-Pipeline-20230208-0011.html

Seymour "Tinfoil Hat" Hersh.

The articles mentions the EUs main supply of gas post Nordstream was through a pipeline through Turkey. Thought Norway was Europe's biggest supplier now

https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/equinor-posts-record-profit-boosted-by-soaring-gas-2022-10-28/#:~:text=%EE%80%80Equinor%EE%80%81%27s%20net%20%EE%80%80profit%EE%80%81%20for%20the%20quarter%20amounted%20to,Thursday%20each%20reported%20%EE%80%80profits%EE%80%81%20of%20more%20than%20%249

Equinor making record profits too.

I see Zelensky wants EU membership this year LOL, we'll have Germany and France begging to join us!

[David L]

Seymour "Tinfoil Hat" Hersh.

Or...Seymour "Pulitzer Prize" Hersh.

[Nickslikk2112]

Poor bloke, gone from useful to a useful idiot.

[Nick]

Just dropped (and, unsurprisingly, immediately dismissed by the Whitehouse):

https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/Seymour-Hersh-Unveils-the-Mystery-of-the-Nord-Stream-Pipeline-20230208-0011.html

Seymour "Tinfoil Hat" Hersh.

The articles mentions the EUs main supply of gas post Nordstream was through a pipeline through Turkey. Thought Norway was Europe's biggest supplier now

https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/equinor-posts-record-profit-boosted-by-soaring-gas-2022-10-28/#:~:text=%EE%80%80Equinor%EE%80%81%27s%20net%20%EE%80%80profit%EE%80%81%20for%20the%20quarter%20amounted%20to,Thursday%20each%20reported%20%EE%80%80profits%EE%80%81%20of%20more%20than%20%249

Equinor making record profits too.

I see Zelensky wants EU membership this year LOL, we'll have Germany and France begging to join us!

Boris wants Ukrainian Eu membership!

[David L]

Boris wants Ukranian citizenship

[Nickslikk2112]

I see Zelensky wants EU membership this year LOL, we'll have Germany and France begging to join us!

Boris wants Ukrainian Eu membership!
[/quote]
Well he's a complete fart isn't he?

[Slim]

Boris wants Ukrainian Eu membership!

Ukraine's exactly the sort of country that it might benefit, at least in the short term. Good call. But NATO membership would do them a lot more good.

[Basspedalman]

Boris wants Ukrainian Eu membership!

Ukraine's exactly the sort of country that it might benefit, at least in the short term. Good call. But NATO membership would do them a lot more good.

I can think of another that could benefit......... It's politicians would need to get their heads out of their arses first though....

[pxr5]

"The Ukrainian data shows 824 Russian soldiers dying per day in February."

That's an appalling statistic. I suspect many of these dying Russian soldiers are new conscripts treated like cannon fodder.  What an awful mess this is.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-64616099

[Slim]

That's absolutely horrific if true. Spring offensive on the way, as well.

Not to belittle it in the slightest but I just remembered that nearly 20,000 British servicemen were killed on the first day of the Battle of the Somme.