30 years of hurt will have been doubled to 60 by the next World Cup unless England win the Euros in Germany.

Baddiel and Skinner will be approaching or past retirement by then (much like ourselves)

Why has England been incapable in all that time? Meanwhile, he club game has  never been stronger.

I suppose the foreigners will get the blame!

You'd think listening to some of those pundits that life as we know it had just stopped.. guess what I woke up this morning and the world keeps turning..

Quote from: dom on December 11, 2022, 09:32:19 AM30 years of hurt will have been doubled to 60 by the next World Cup unless England win the Euros in Germany.

Baddiel and Skinner will be approaching or past retirement by then (much like ourselves)

Why has England been incapable in all that time? Meanwhile, he club game has  never been stronger.

I suppose the foreigners will get the blame!

Well, this year we can say that it's got nothing to do with the performance of the team on the pitch. Football is not 11 men against 12.

The ref didn't send the ball into row Z when England had a penalty. It wasn't up to the ref to stop Griezmann from crossing or Giroud from meeting the cross. It wasn't the ref who sent a powerful header the wrong side of the post. Etc, etc, etc. I fear disappointment is clouding your judgement a little.

Kudos to the person who modified the wikipedia entry for the ref from last night's game.

Apparently the French referee is looking for his guide dog to be returned 😁

Quote from: Fishy on December 11, 2022, 09:45:19 AMYou'd think listening to some of those pundits that life as we know it had just stopped.. guess what I woke up this morning and the world keeps turning..

yes but your Scottish.

I thought some of the "fouls" that weren't given were just examples of the French player being stronger - including the Saka incident.  The Kane incident was a foul but with the initial contact just outside the box.

England created very little from open play but were (rightly) awarded two penalties.  But France had more nous in the moments when it was most needed and where it most mattered.

And in one of the sub-plots, Mbappe answered the question if he could rinse Walker for pace pretty definitively.

As one excellent post-match article puts it: England believed; France knew.

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Quote from: Fishy on December 11, 2022, 09:45:19 AMYou'd think listening to some of those pundits that life as we know it had just stopped.. guess what I woke up this morning and the world keeps turning..

yes but your Scottish.

Yes we just get on with disappointment...

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Quote from: pdw1 on December 11, 2022, 11:01:25 AM

Quote from: Fishy on December 11, 2022, 09:45:19 AMYou'd think listening to some of those pundits that life as we know it had just stopped.. guess what I woke up this morning and the world keeps turning..

yes but your Scottish.

Yes we just get on with disappointment...

🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 😁

Quote from: The Picnic Wasp on December 11, 2022, 04:27:41 PM

Quote from: Fishy on December 11, 2022, 12:53:50 PM

Quote from: pdw1 on December 11, 2022, 11:01:25 AM

Quote from: Fishy on December 11, 2022, 09:45:19 AMYou'd think listening to some of those pundits that life as we know it had just stopped.. guess what I woke up this morning and the world keeps turning..

yes but your Scottish.

Yes we just get on with disappointment...

🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 😁

Despite the neighbours.

Quote from: dom on December 11, 2022, 10:50:24 AMThe ref didn't send the ball into row Z when England had a penalty. It wasn't up to the ref to stop Griezmann from crossing or Giroud from meeting the cross. It wasn't the ref who sent a powerful header the wrong side of the post.

You must know that the entire match wasn't decided on these events alone, surely? We weren't beaten in a fair contest and we'll never know who should rightfully have won the World Cup this year.

Blame Wales. Ukraine should have been handed it and the contest played for second place.

Quote from: Slim on December 11, 2022, 04:47:09 PM

Quote from: dom on December 11, 2022, 10:50:24 AMThe ref didn't send the ball into row Z when England had a penalty. It wasn't up to the ref to stop Griezmann from crossing or Giroud from meeting the cross. It wasn't the ref who sent a powerful header the wrong side of the post.

You must know that the entire match wasn't decided on these events alone, surely? We weren't beaten in a fair contest and we'll never know who should rightfully have won the World Cup this year.

They were the key moments of the match and they were far more relevant than any questionable decisions. Had much more of an impact than any wrong call by the man in black.

Are you allowed to say man in black these days? 🙄

  Probably not, I won't tell if you don't.

Quote from: The Picnic Wasp on December 11, 2022, 04:58:13 PMBlame Wales. Ukraine should have been handed it and the contest played for second place.

Indeed. Still time for Zelensky to make the presentation to the winners though 😁