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Between The Wheels => Food and Drink => Topic started by: The Picnic Wasp on October 04, 2022, 08:48:33 PM

Title: Chocolate
Post by: The Picnic Wasp on October 04, 2022, 08:48:33 PM
I love most forms of the stuff, but there must be a scientific reason why a Flake is so much better than a straightforward bar of Cadbury's milk chocolate. Also, why does the centre of Lindor chocolate feel cooler in the mouth than the outer coating?
Title: Re: Chocolate
Post by: David L on October 04, 2022, 10:22:44 PM
I've been into dark chocolate for years now. I started with 70% cocoa and occasionally dipped my toe in the higher cocoa content stuff. Trouble was, it was always too bitter for my taste. However I've now found that Lidl's J D Gross 85% is the chocolate for me. Of course, it's healthy too! (As long as you eat in moderation as part of a calorie-controlled diet!). Cheap too!
I like all my confectionery to be of the dark variety too nowadays including Kit-Kats, Tunnocks bars, chocolate buttons, Leibniz biscuits etc.
Title: Re: Chocolate
Post by: The Picnic Wasp on October 04, 2022, 10:39:33 PM
Yes, I prefer anything coated to be of the dark variety too, but I have to watch out for the higher caffeine content in solid bars. I quite miss a really high cocoa content chocolate these days but not worth the worry. I've not tried anything from Tunnocks with a plain chocolate coating yet. Their caramel wafers  must be good. I deliberately don't buy dark chocolate digestives anymore as a whole pack just disappears in no time. Memories of Tesco deliveries of too much alcohol and plain chocolate digestives take me back to the darkest days of lockdown.
Title: Re: Chocolate
Post by: Slim on October 04, 2022, 10:54:06 PM
Is a Flake made out of the same stuff as a regular bar of Cadbury's chocolate? They do taste better, I have to agree. There must be something in the way they're shaped like that - perhaps longer exposure to heat - that makes them different.

But the consistency and texture of it could make it taste different, as well - it could perhaps deliver the taste to your tastebuds in a different way, a bit like a fizzy orange drink tastes different than when it's flat.

As a kid I used to eat the local dark chocolate in Spain when we were on holiday there and that was amazing, very intense and almost powdery. If it melted in the sun it was somehow even better once it set again.

I only eat chocolate on long bike rides now, and only on a minority of those. Apart from the chocolate coating on those little crispy balls that you get in a Muller yoghurt.

I used to buy white chocolate occasionally, Tesco own brand was great.
Title: Re: Chocolate
Post by: The Picnic Wasp on October 04, 2022, 11:09:53 PM
A colleague once visited Ghana and brought back the local chocolate. I can't find the correct adjectives to describe its texture. Brittle yet unyielding initially is the best I can come up with. Presumably it is manufactured that way due to the climate.
Title: Re: Chocolate
Post by: Slim on October 05, 2022, 06:21:42 PM
Nestlé have caused a bit of a stir by introducing simpler, recyclable waxed paper wrappers for Quality Street, to replace the shiny cellophane ones they've used for decades (pictured below)


(https://i.ibb.co/b2P1kd1/qualstreet.webp)

(https://i.ibb.co/dmFYCzc/oldqualst.webp)
Title: Re: Chocolate
Post by: David L on October 05, 2022, 08:20:18 PM
....and reducing the size of the sweet within at the same time, no doubt
Title: Re: Chocolate
Post by: Slim on October 06, 2022, 10:16:21 AM
A logical thing to do would be to sell them in cardboard packaging, rather than the big plastic tub that replaced the old metal container.

Seems bizarre to make a disposable metal container for something like biscuits or chocolates, not sure if anyone still does that now.
Title: Re: Chocolate
Post by: The Picnic Wasp on October 06, 2022, 10:22:47 AM
Agreed. Whenever I see the great walls of Quality Street, Celebrations, Roses and Heroes lining the supermarket foyers from now until Christmas, it sometimes triggers the thought about where those containers all end up. Peter Kay's auntie can only store a certain amount of buttons.

Title: Re: Chocolate
Post by: Slim on October 08, 2022, 10:20:37 PM
Since I did a bike ride of greater than 50 miles distance today, I was entitled to a chocolate bar. I chose a Fry's Peppermint Cream.

The Fry's Chocolate Cream and its variants are my favourite chocolate confection of all since childhood and I'm happy that they still exist, all these years later. Except that my very favourite version, the Fry's Five Centres, was discontinued 30 years ago.

(https://i.ibb.co/PChGbMf/fivecentres.jpg)

I'm not sure I was aware that Fry's was a Cadbury's brand until this evening. But in fact Cadbury's acquired the brand over 100 years ago. Glad they've kept the original branding.

The only other Fry's product I can think of is Turkish Delight, and I never liked that much.

https://www.cadbury.co.uk/products/frys-peppermint-cream-11325

https://www.cadbury.co.uk/products/frys-chocolate-cream-11326

According to this Wikipedia article (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fry's_Chocolate_Cream) there exist also Fry's Raspberry Cream and Fry's Orange Cream, can't say I remember seeing either of them.



Title: Re: Chocolate
Post by: The Picnic Wasp on October 08, 2022, 10:48:51 PM
My goodness, Fry's Five Centres a real blast from the past. My mum liked Fry's chocolate and I can remember when I was really young she used to give me a milk chocolate bar called Fry's Five Boys. I remember it had pictures of young lads on the wrapper with various expressions, but I can only recall that one of them was crying, which I seem to remember I found a bit disconcerting. It must have disappeared in the 60s. I also miss Cadbury's Bar Six which I usually think about when I have a Kinder Bueno, but they're not as good. So many good sweets have disappeared over the years. No one I know can remember the Suchardette which I loved.
Title: Re: Chocolate
Post by: Slim on October 09, 2022, 12:19:05 AM
I remember Bar Six well, I quite liked that one but I don't miss it. It was a bit like a Blue Riband, which does still exist. A bit like a Kit Kat as well I guess.

Here's one that, I was surprised to see, still exists: Cadbury's Old Jamaica.

(https://i.ibb.co/kh0FrDR/oldjamaicanew.jpg)

https://www.snacksonline.co.uk/products/cadbury-bournville-old-jamaica-dark-chocolate-rum-raisin-100g

But it didn't have the Bournville designation when I was a kid; the wrapper was much more inviting:

(https://i.ibb.co/qNsdGyk/oldjamaica10p.jpg)

I remember buying one from a vending machine at Hartlepool Railway Station in about 1971. Cost either 10p or 2 shillings (same coin) which seemed a lot then.

They seemed bigger then but in fact 3⅜ oz (as shown on the old wrapper) is slightly less than 100g. They were actually a little smaller.
Title: Re: Chocolate
Post by: David L on October 09, 2022, 08:58:37 AM
I loved Old Jamaica. I think it was discontinued for a while, good to see it back but it wouldn't cut the mustard in as far as cocoa content goes.
That classic rum and raisin combo is a favourite of mine and I really like a couple of scoops of R&R ice cream every once in a while.
Title: Re: Chocolate
Post by: The Picnic Wasp on October 09, 2022, 11:19:56 AM
Old Jamaica! I think the pirate in the TV ad used to pronounce it Jamaikay. I liked it although it wasn't a regular for me. I don't think I've seen it on the shelves although the wrapper might have foxed me. Ive seen Fry's Orange Cream recently though. Perhaps there's regional tastes and consumption for certain things. I believe Amazon sell the five centres variety. I'd like it if the Amazin bar came back. Texans, Trophies and the like. Quite a number of items I liked or at least used to buy which didn't have the staying power. Recipe changes are a bugbear of mine though. Milky Ways aren't as good now (Flytes were more like an old MW but I don't see them now) and Double Deckers were fantastic originally but now seem designed to break teeth.
Title: Re: Chocolate
Post by: David L on October 09, 2022, 11:22:33 AM
Picnic are one of my favourites. I think they got the blend of ingredients just right with that one. The texture is perfect too
Title: Re: Chocolate
Post by: The Picnic Wasp on October 09, 2022, 12:41:39 PM
I must be less lazy and figure out why I can't post images. I really enjoy seeing the images you put up, James.
Title: Re: Chocolate
Post by: pxr5 on October 09, 2022, 01:14:22 PM
Pyramints - though they are not made anymore. Used to be advertised by Rowan Atkinson dressed as a mummy.

Title: Re: Chocolate
Post by: The Picnic Wasp on October 09, 2022, 01:42:31 PM
Oh yes, I couldn't remember those until I saw the Google image. Don't think I ever had one but would definitely try one now if they were still around. Probably tasted like Mintolas. Thinking of those made me think of Mint Cracknel, one of those bars that could be slightly painful to eat, like Toblerone. Some textures of confectionery I find irritating.
Title: Re: Chocolate
Post by: pxr5 on October 09, 2022, 03:52:47 PM
I'm not really a lover of minty chocolate, but those pyramints were different somehow.

Whilst we were on a mini break in Shropshire last month we found a chocolate shop and bought some handmade Walnut Whips. They didn't taste great, but we hadn't realised they were vegan when we bought them. Don't ever bother, just get a normal Walnut Whip - yum.
Title: Re: Chocolate
Post by: Slim on October 09, 2022, 04:08:37 PM
Quote from: The Picnic Wasp on October 09, 2022, 12:41:39 PMI must be less lazy and figure out why I can't post images. I really enjoy seeing the images you put up, James.

Thanks! If you haven't seen it there's a guide here:

http://betweenthewheels.net/index.php?topic=59.0
Title: Re: Chocolate
Post by: The Picnic Wasp on October 09, 2022, 06:02:28 PM
Quote from: pxr5 on October 09, 2022, 03:52:47 PMI'm not really a lover of minty chocolate, but those pyramints were different somehow.

Whilst we were on a mini break in Shropshire last month we found a chocolate shop and bought some handmade Walnut Whips. They didn't taste great, but we hadn't realised they were vegan when we bought them. Don't ever bother, just get a normal Walnut Whip - yum.

I have a good friend who is vegan and she occasionally buys me sweets and chocolate. Some of it is very expensive stuff, more so than I would pay for a quick snack, but I just can't get to grips with it at all. It just doesn't have that quick rewarding fix or texture that I crave. Maybe I have a lazy palate.
Title: Re: Chocolate
Post by: Slim on October 09, 2022, 06:46:12 PM
I was vegan for a while about 30 years ago, a chocolate substitute called carob was quite popular in the various vegan shops. I didn't much like it.

Title: Re: Chocolate
Post by: David L on October 09, 2022, 07:15:52 PM
My wife's boss (vegan) has bought me h.org.e vegan truffles which I enjoyed (not as much as normal chocolate though, it has to be said)
Title: Re: Chocolate
Post by: Slim on October 19, 2022, 11:28:52 AM
Quote from: Slim on October 08, 2022, 10:20:37 PMAccording to this Wikipedia article (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fry's_Chocolate_Cream) there exist also Fry's Raspberry Cream and Fry's Orange Cream, can't say I remember seeing either of them.


I spotted some Fry's Orange Cream in the wild on Monday. Three bars for £1, tempting but I was good. I don't go Morrisson's often, normally a Tesco kinda guy. But I was passing and needed a few things.

(https://i.ibb.co/7zbrxx6/choc-cream-mor.jpg)
Title: Re: Chocolate
Post by: The Picnic Wasp on November 03, 2022, 03:33:14 PM
With Bounty set to be removed from Celebrations boxes, STV news website has listed five other bars axed by manufacturers but missed by consumers. They listed;

Rowntree's Cabana
Fry's Five Centre
Cadbury's Snowflake
Mars Delight
Cadbury's Fuse

I Googled Fuse because I couldn't remember it despite its description being exactly what I would design if I was allowed to invent a chocolate bar. The wrapper looked vaguely familiar and I'm sure I must have bought them regularly when available, but they'd slipped from my memory. Weird. I'm usually good at that sort of trivia. However, now only manufactured in India. I'm surprised Snowflake bit the dust though.
Title: Re: Chocolate
Post by: David L on November 03, 2022, 05:13:03 PM
Quote from: The Picnic Wasp on November 03, 2022, 03:33:14 PMWith Bounty set to be removed from Celebrations boxes, STV news website has listed five other bars axed by manufacturers but missed by consumers. They listed;

Rowntree's Cabana
Fry's Five Centre
Cadbury's Snowflake
Mars Delight
Cadbury's Fuse

I Googled Fuse because I couldn't remember it despite its description being exactly what I would design if I was allowed to invent a chocolate bar. The wrapper looked vaguely familiar and I'm sure I must have bought them regularly when available, but they'd slipped from my memory. Weird. I'm usually good at that sort of trivia. However, now only manufactured in India. I'm surprised Snowflake bit the dust though.

Mars have got brilliant mileage out of this today! They'll be having a celebration, for sure!

They said they are just trialling removing the Bounty in a very limited number of tubs. I think the problem is partly, the Bounty is loathed by kids (I couldn't stand them as a kid) and they are sure to be discarded by most of the young'uns. It is definitely considered an 'adult' confectionary (much like Turkish Delight....yukk!) and even I would enjoy a dark Bounty at a more 'mature' age, I have to admit.

If it is phased out, my guess is that it is because it is expensive to produce, after all it has to be sourced from Paradise  ;D

My own selection tub would be based on the following:

Picnic
Topic
Old Jamaica
Ice Breaker
Munchies or Country Style
Fruit & Nut
Double Decker
Title: Re: Chocolate
Post by: The Picnic Wasp on November 03, 2022, 05:23:10 PM
Quote from: David L on November 03, 2022, 05:13:03 PM
Quote from: The Picnic Wasp on November 03, 2022, 03:33:14 PMWith Bounty set to be removed from Celebrations boxes, STV news website has listed five other bars axed by manufacturers but missed by consumers. They listed;

Rowntree's Cabana
Fry's Five Centre
Cadbury's Snowflake
Mars Delight
Cadbury's Fuse

I Googled Fuse because I couldn't remember it despite its description being exactly what I would design if I was allowed to invent a chocolate bar. The wrapper looked vaguely familiar and I'm sure I must have bought them regularly when available, but they'd slipped from my memory. Weird. I'm usually good at that sort of trivia. However, now only manufactured in India. I'm surprised Snowflake bit the dust though.

Mars have got brilliant mileage out of this today! They'll be having a celebration, for sure!

They said they are just trialling removing the Bounty in a very limited number of tubs. I think the problem is partly, the Bounty is loathed by kids (I couldn't stand them as a kid) and they are sure to be discarded by most of the young'uns. It is definitely considered an 'adult' confectionary (much like Turkish Delight....yukk!) and even I would enjoy a dark Bounty at a more 'mature' age, I have to admit.

If it is phased out, my guess is that it is because it is expensive to produce, after all it has to be sourced from Paradise  ;D

My own selection tub would be based on the following:

Picnic
Topic
Old Jamaica
Ice Breaker
Munchies or Country Style
Fruit & Nut
Double Decker

Oh yes! That would be a winner. I must admit I had to look up Country Style but as soon as I saw the wrapper I remembered I loved it. The only biscuit and raisin bar I know of now is the Yorkie version, which is fine but not as good a chocolate as Cadbury's. It would have to be the original recipe Double Decker though. The new one is granite based I think.
Title: Re: Chocolate
Post by: Slim on November 03, 2022, 06:12:15 PM
Interesting thought. I always liked Bounties from a very young age personally. I miss the old wrapper with the cardboard sleeve.

I think my own selection tub would contain minatures of:

Mars Bar
Crunchie
Snickers
Flake
Bounty
Twix
Fry's Chocolate Cream (or similar)
Milky Bar
Fudge
Malteser bar
Title: Re: Chocolate
Post by: pxr5 on November 03, 2022, 06:53:32 PM
Does anyone remember these Mars bars from 2009? I loved them so much I bought as many as I could, they are truly delicious. Not available anymore, but I wish Mars would do them again.

"This bar is similar to a regular Mars except that the chocolate coating is made with rich dark chocolate instead of the milk. The nougat inside the bar is white in colour and creamier in taste and softer in texture than that of a regular Mars."

https://www.foodstufffinds.co.uk/2009/07/mars-midnight-limited-edition-pound.html
Title: Re: Chocolate
Post by: The Picnic Wasp on November 03, 2022, 07:24:50 PM
Yes, I remember the Midnight Mars. I really liked them. There's so many items of confectionery I wish would return but it's a day and age of stringent control of set up and production costs. Cadbury seem to be content to just churn out variations of their Dairy Milk bar. No pun intended.
Title: Re: Chocolate
Post by: David L on November 03, 2022, 07:41:56 PM
Quote from: pxr5 on November 03, 2022, 06:53:32 PMDoes anyone remember these Mars bars from 2009? I loved them so much I bought as many as I could, they are truly delicious. Not available anymore, but I wish Mars would do them again.

"This bar is similar to a regular Mars except that the chocolate coating is made with rich dark chocolate instead of the milk. The nougat inside the bar is white in colour and creamier in taste and softer in texture than that of a regular Mars."

https://www.foodstufffinds.co.uk/2009/07/mars-midnight-limited-edition-pound.html
To my mind, anything can be improved by replacing milk chocolate for dark  ;) 
Title: Re: Chocolate
Post by: Slim on November 03, 2022, 07:52:35 PM
I missed out, unfortunately. Much as I loved Mars Bars I always thought they were a bit too much, even as a kid. Just too much of an overdose of sticky toffee and chocolate and whatever else is in there.

Having said that, they're a bit smaller than they were back then. I'll be doing a 62+ mile bike ride tomorrow hopefully so perhaps I'll treat myself to one on the way back.

I bought a Milky Way in New York once, and was surprised to find that it was actually a Mars Bar. What we call Milky Way is a "3 Musketeers" over there.
Title: Re: Chocolate
Post by: The Picnic Wasp on November 03, 2022, 07:59:04 PM
The old Milky Ways were great. The new filling is lighter in colour and texture and a bit too sweet. There was a bar around a few years back called Flyte which was quite like an original Milky Way.
Title: Re: Chocolate
Post by: The Picnic Wasp on November 03, 2022, 08:06:49 PM
I find American chocolate interesting. There was a feature on a QI episode which explained why some brands like Hershey have a slight taste of sick. I think it was something added to the milk to preserve it for the long transportation journey times. I hope that's correct and my memory isn't playing tricks.
Title: Re: Chocolate
Post by: Slim on November 03, 2022, 08:40:35 PM
Only on Tuesday an American friend of mine was telling me that "dark chocolate Milky Way is the best", referring to what we'd call a dark chocolate Mars Bar.

Can you get those over here? Had a look on the Mars Bar site at https://www.marsbar.co.uk/products/chocolate-bar/mars-chocolate-bar-51g and it looks like you can't.

But there is a Mars Protein bar, with 40% less sugar.
Title: Re: Chocolate
Post by: The Picnic Wasp on November 03, 2022, 08:56:36 PM
I tried Dairy Milk 30% less sugar recently. It wasn't unpleasant but required more "work" to derive something approaching the easy pleasurable hit of its stablemate. It was noticeably waxy on its finish. Probably better to just consume less of the real thing.
Title: Re: Chocolate
Post by: pxr5 on November 03, 2022, 09:07:57 PM
Quote from: The Picnic Wasp on November 03, 2022, 08:06:49 PMI find American chocolate interesting. There was a feature on a QI episode which explained why some brands like Hershey have a slight taste of sick. I think it was something added to the milk to preserve it for the long transportation journey times. I hope that's correct and my memory isn't playing tricks.
Hershey chocolates certainly do taste of sick. I bought a huge bag in New Jersey to take home for the family. None of us could eat them, they really were that bad.
Title: Re: Chocolate
Post by: Slim on November 04, 2022, 09:00:40 AM
I'm not sure if I've ever eaten anything made by Hershey's - I think I must have at some time. Fascinated to try it again (or possibly for the first time) now. I googled this:

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/hersheys-chocolate-tastes-like-vomit_l_60479e5fc5b6af8f98bec0cd

Title: Re: Chocolate
Post by: Nickslikk2112 on November 04, 2022, 10:08:41 AM
DO NOT EVER EAT HERSHEYS!!!!!
Title: Re: Chocolate
Post by: Slim on November 04, 2022, 05:24:49 PM
Well the village shop at Abbott's Bromley where I stopped on a bike ride today had neither Hershey's nor Mars Bars. I bought two Fudges.

Out of curiosity, I will try Hershey's sometime. I have a feeling I might like it; might be one of those acquired taste things.
Title: Re: Chocolate
Post by: The Picnic Wasp on November 04, 2022, 10:18:01 PM
I do like it and I'm quite fussy about my chocolate. I appreciate a good quality uncorrupted flavour and tend to steer away from anything flavoured or with fillings. I can live with a Terry's Chocolate Orange or After Eights but I'm not so keen on anything granular like Toblerone other than the occasional notion for something I haven't tried in a while. Bars with a biscuit and raisin mix like the old Tiffin bar are definitely ok though. But Hershey's is weirdly different and definitely on the menu from time to time. I think from memory the sick taste is more noticeable in their Kisses chocolates. I thought I'd satisfy my latest craving by asking my sister to pick up a bar of Hershey's at Tesco tonight but she could only find Cookies 'N' Creme. Disappointing but not as bad as I thought it might be. A bit Milky Bar meets a Bourbon.
Title: Re: Chocolate
Post by: Slim on November 07, 2022, 04:30:02 PM
I looked for Hershey's in Tesco about an hour ago. They did have a product called Hershey's Cookies 'n' Creme, but no regular bog-standard chocolate.

Curiously Tesco now sells a confectionery called "Chocolonely". Supposedly a more ethical chocolate product, which is 100% "slave free".

https://tonyschocolonely.com/uk/en/our-mission

I don't normally buy chocolate anyway but at £3 a bar I would pass in any case.

Title: Re: Chocolate
Post by: Slim on November 15, 2022, 10:08:07 PM
Full Size Twirls in Heroes Tubs Shocker

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-63642174

"To ensure we can continue to bring our loyal consumers the products they know and love, we have temporarily substituted bitesize Cadbury Twirl in Heroes Tubs, to the slightly larger Cadbury Twirl 21g across a small percentage of tubs produced," the spokesperson added.
Title: Re: Chocolate
Post by: David L on November 15, 2022, 10:40:10 PM
Quote from: Slim on November 15, 2022, 10:08:07 PMFull Size Twirls in Heroes Tubs Shocker

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-63642174

"To ensure we can continue to bring our loyal consumers the products they know and love, we have temporarily substituted bitesize Cadbury Twirl in Heroes Tubs, to the slightly larger Cadbury Twirl 21g across a small percentage of tubs produced," the spokesperson added.
Clearly that last bit of publicity worked so well, they thought they'd try it again  ::)
Title: Re: Chocolate
Post by: Slim on November 17, 2022, 11:15:10 PM

Woman Eats Chocolate Orange "Completely The Wrong Way" Outrage

https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/woman-apologises-nation-eating-terrys-7829031?1896=

"A woman has issued a message to the UK to apologise after posting a video eating a Terry's Chocolate Orange - by taking full bites out of the treat. Many Brits were left 'offended' at the way she bit into the chocolate, instead of dividing it into segments"
Title: Re: Chocolate
Post by: Nick on November 20, 2022, 08:06:36 PM
I actually think I eat more chocolate now due to the shrinkage of the bar sizes, instead of one big old style bar I need two small ones which is probably more!
Title: Re: Chocolate
Post by: Slim on November 27, 2022, 08:29:10 PM
I usually start buying certain items for Christmas in November - important elements of the Christmas experience like Christmas cake or brandy that might be tricky to track down later on. I stash them in a dark and obscure corner of a cupboard in the kitchen.

A few days ago I was stashing the first of this year's items - some Stollen - when I came across this. What the f.. ?

(https://i.ibb.co/GCBsSBW/zestychoc.jpg)

Somehow a bar of chocolate had survived over a year in the kitchen cupboard.

The best-before date is marked as Jan 2022. Now - I was quite sceptical that a bar of chocolate can significantly degrade over a little more than twelve months, especially when it doesn't contain dairy products. But I'm sorry to say that this one definitely has. There's precious little flavour left in it. It's certainly not bold & citrusy, and it's not even particularly chocolatey. I have a suspicion that the cardboard wrapper would taste almost as good. It's not unpleasant exactly, but it's insipid; a bit stale.

Still - I'm sure it's safe enough and I doubt it's lost any of its potency as cycling fuel.

I wouldn't normally eat chocolate except on a long bike ride (or at Christmas) but in this case, best to use it up before it gets any older.
Title: Re: Chocolate
Post by: David L on November 27, 2022, 09:00:40 PM
We're tucking into Tesco Lebkucken hearts at the moment  :)
Title: Re: Chocolate
Post by: Fishy on December 27, 2022, 09:16:32 PM
Quality Street are shit..we had a few then binned them..
Title: Re: Chocolate
Post by: Nick on December 29, 2022, 06:20:56 PM
Opened a tin of Cadburys, the taste has changed since the Kraft takeover, taste more of palm oil than chocolate. Had a few Hotel du Chocolate before and the taste difference was night and day.
Title: Re: Chocolate
Post by: Fishy on December 29, 2022, 06:37:10 PM
We're on Terrys chocolate orange...
Title: Re: Chocolate
Post by: The Picnic Wasp on December 30, 2022, 02:26:47 PM
I was given more chocolate and sweets than I usually receive this year. Most of it the usual Cadbury's or Lindor stuff, but also Guinness Truffles. Quite nice although the ganache is in a dark chocolate shell. I do enjoy dark chocolate as I think it has a more complex, interesting flavour, but I also worry about the arrhythmia angle. It's probably not much more of a trigger. I also got a box of York Fruits. Not tasted those in years. Probably good for me to get a hit of gelatine now and again. My neighbour buys me vegan chocolate. I can't get my palate to adjust to it yet.
Title: Re: Chocolate
Post by: The Picnic Wasp on December 30, 2022, 02:28:29 PM
Quote from: Nick on December 29, 2022, 06:20:56 PMOpened a tin of Cadburys, the taste has changed since the Kraft takeover, taste more of palm oil than chocolate. Had a few Hotel du Chocolate before and the taste difference was night and day.

I hope they haven't changed the recipe! I think that could cause more unrest in Britain than anything politicians might do.
Title: Re: Chocolate
Post by: The Picnic Wasp on December 30, 2022, 02:33:43 PM
Also, Aldi's Moser Roth range has never disappointed me. They have a 400g Mountain Bar in a box which would be handy to fend off muggers. The Moser Roth chocolate that I've tried, and especially their truffles, taste suspiciously like Lindor.
Title: Re: Chocolate
Post by: Slim on December 30, 2022, 02:46:33 PM
I bought myself some Montezuma's "Sea Dog" lime & sea salt chocolate. Nice. Also was gifted some Green & Black's, and a pretty standard box of chocoloate liqeurs. I have a very strong Christmas association with those. I expect most of us do.
Title: Re: Chocolate
Post by: David L on December 30, 2022, 04:01:31 PM
Quote from: The Picnic Wasp on December 30, 2022, 02:26:47 PMI do enjoy dark chocolate as I think it has a more complex, interesting flavour, but I also worry about the arrhythmia angle.
What!? Dark chocolate gives you a heart attack?
Did you have a covid vaccine?
Full of anti-oxidants
Title: Re: Chocolate
Post by: The Picnic Wasp on December 30, 2022, 04:22:58 PM
Quote from: David L on December 30, 2022, 04:01:31 PM
Quote from: The Picnic Wasp on December 30, 2022, 02:26:47 PMI do enjoy dark chocolate as I think it has a more complex, interesting flavour, but I also worry about the arrhythmia angle.
What!? Dark chocolate gives you a heart attack?
Did you have a covid vaccine?
Full of anti-oxidants

I don't know about heart attacks, but it has a higher cocoa content and therefore more caffeine. Not a problem for the vast majority of people, but if like me it might trigger atrial fibrillation then it's probably wise not to eat too much. I've had several covid vaccinations now. Last one (Moderna) knocked me sideways for a couple of days which as I mentioned previously is probably a good thing. Proves it's working.
Title: Re: Chocolate
Post by: Slim on April 25, 2023, 02:26:16 PM
The Hershey's Chocolate bar had very similar branding to the present day, in 1958.

(https://i.ibb.co/LrYDxKp/hershey-bilko.jpg)

(https://i.ibb.co/68xk8XS/hershey-modern.jpg)

Title: Re: Chocolate
Post by: Slim on April 26, 2023, 01:23:21 PM
If this doesn't put you off eating chocolate, nothing will.

Title: Re: Chocolate
Post by: The Picnic Wasp on April 29, 2023, 04:26:54 PM
Had a bar of Tony's Chocolonely last night. I should really only eat this brand due to their anti-slavery stance but I also enjoyed a Flake in a Friday night binge. The Tony's is demarcated not in uniform squares or segments but unevenly to stress the following;

"The unevenly sized chunks of our 6oz bars are a palatable way of reminding our choco friends that the profits in the chocolate industry are unfairly divided. And in case you haven't noticed, the bottom of our bars represents the Equator. The chunks above are the Gulf of Guinea".

Perhaps one of the regulars on here who don't employ the switch it off and on again method could post a picture.
Title: Re: Chocolate
Post by: David L on April 29, 2023, 04:52:26 PM
Quote from: The Picnic Wasp on April 29, 2023, 04:26:54 PMHad a bar of Tony's Chocolonely last night. I should really only eat this brand due to their anti-slavery stance but I also enjoyed a Flake in a Friday night binge. The Tony's is demarcated not in uniform squares or segments but unevenly to stress the following;

"The unevenly sized chunks of our 6oz bars are a palatable way of reminding our choco friends that the profits in the chocolate industry are unfairly divided. And in case you haven't noticed, the bottom of our bars represents the Equator. The chunks above are the Gulf of Guinea".

Perhaps one of the regulars on here who don't employ the switch it off and on again method could post a picture.
I'm sure I've never consumed any chocolate that was produced by a 'pro-slavery' company....could be wrong though
Title: Re: Chocolate
Post by: Slim on April 29, 2023, 07:29:28 PM
I have a feeling they've had a mention already in this thread .. ah yes

Quote from: Slim on November 07, 2022, 04:30:02 PMI looked for Hershey's in Tesco about an hour ago. They did have a product called Hershey's Cookies 'n' Creme, but no regular bog-standard chocolate.

Curiously Tesco now sells a confectionery called "Chocolonely". Supposedly a more ethical chocolate product, which is 100% "slave free".

https://tonyschocolonely.com/uk/en/our-mission

I don't normally buy chocolate anyway but at £3 a bar I would pass in any case.
Title: Re: Chocolate
Post by: The Picnic Wasp on April 29, 2023, 09:01:25 PM
Mine was a 50g bar at £1 in Waitrose. Good chocolate. I haven't been able to find the standard uncorrupted Hershey's of late in order to enjoy that strange chocolate / vomit taste combination again. There's a BP filling station nearby with a huge confectionary selection but if they don't have it it'll have to be an online purchase to satisfy the craving. I think Hershey's Kisses have a more pronounced taste but sometimes it's the shape and texture of chocolate which makes the difference. I don't bother with Walnut Whips anymore since they changed the production technique to a moulded rather than poured end product. It changes the whole experience but in a negative way.
Title: Re: Chocolate
Post by: Nick on April 30, 2023, 08:59:22 PM
Cadbury's dairy milk is unrecognisable from what it used to be but Galaxy remains true to its original I think.
Title: Re: Chocolate
Post by: The Picnic Wasp on April 30, 2023, 10:02:49 PM
Quote from: Nick on April 30, 2023, 08:59:22 PMCadbury's dairy milk is unrecognisable from what it used to be but Galaxy remains true to its original I think.

I believe the USA's recipe for CDM still contains cocoa butter as the fat due to FDA regulations. The UK variety can contain palm or shea oil.
Title: Re: Chocolate
Post by: The Picnic Wasp on April 30, 2023, 10:04:05 PM
Took a notion for a Caramac tonight. On checking the ingredients I realised I wasn't eating chocolate.