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Between The Wheels => Food and Drink => Topic started by: Nickslikk2112 on June 18, 2022, 09:40:57 PM

Title: W(h)ine
Post by: Nickslikk2112 on June 18, 2022, 09:40:57 PM
I could well be moaning about it - I do about most things...

I'm currently drinking an Argentine fortified Malbec called Malamado. It's OK, bit spicier than a Port and with a definite hint of Currants. It was on offer at Tesco, I'd buy it again - on offer.
Title: Re: W(h)ine
Post by: Slim on June 20, 2022, 07:09:09 PM
I'm not a fan of wine but in the last couple of years ago I started stealing the wife's Sauvignon Blanc to consume with food - very refreshing after a bike ride if it's chilled. I started buying my own Chilean version (she likes the New Zealand variant) because it's cheap from Tesco, £3.89 a bottle. Highly quaffable.

Sometimes I steal her Merlot as well and that can be very nice if I'm in the right mood. I don't drink that with food, though.
Title: Re: W(h)ine
Post by: Nickslikk2112 on June 20, 2022, 07:13:06 PM
Just remembered, with Saturday's Charlie Bigham Chicken and Ham Gratin we had a 2013 Saintsbury Carneros Chardonnay.

At that age I thought it might have been a bit old, but no, was still very fresh. It was one I'd found in my dad's "Wine Cellar" I assume he bought it a few Christmases back and forgot about. So it was nice to drink and remember the old feller. I introduced him to Saintsbury back in the days when I was richer.
Title: Re: W(h)ine
Post by: Matt2112 on July 08, 2022, 06:16:41 PM
Love my reds but can't abide whites or pinks.

As far as bargains go, Aldi have a Tempranillo by Toro Loco which is about 4 quid and is pretty impressive for the price.  I tried it after reading an article on The Independent's site which mentioned it had compared favourably with wines at ten times the price in blind taste tests.
Title: Re: W(h)ine
Post by: Nickslikk2112 on July 08, 2022, 06:58:16 PM
I started out as a white wine man before switching over to red, but whites are creeping back again, I drink about 2:1 red to white, but a well chilled, crisp rosé is perfect on a hot summer's evening.
Title: Re: W(h)ine
Post by: David L on July 08, 2022, 07:42:46 PM
Like a Pinot Grigio blush, I do
Title: Re: W(h)ine
Post by: Nickslikk2112 on July 08, 2022, 09:11:53 PM
St Hallett Faith Shiraz for me tonight. Meaty, Beaty, Big and Bouncy :)

Don't really go in for Pinot Grigio, especially not blush ones - even though it can give pink wines - I like me a nice golden, honeyed Pinot Gris from Alsace. I'd have cracked one open tonight to celebrate the TdF finishing on La Planche des Belles Filles, but I can't afford one :(
Title: Re: W(h)ine
Post by: Fishy on August 30, 2022, 01:47:31 PM
Got an Italian white wine tasting coming up next weekend .. forgotten all about it tbh...
Title: Re: W(h)ine
Post by: Nickslikk2112 on December 30, 2022, 09:17:23 PM
Had some decent stuff over Xmas.
Some of it was remainder wines from what my dad had got in for previous years.

The Saintsbury Pinot Noir 2018 was great. Even let the sister in law sample that on Boxing day.
A Duckhorn Chardonnay was lovely rich and ripe, great with smoked salmon.

I'd sourced a Tio Pepe en Rama Fino Sherry. En Rama sherries are bottled without filtering and this was lovely bready and fresh.

With Xmas pud we had a Chateau Climens 2012 Barsac. Just a half bottle, a very expensive half bottle, but a properly botrytised Sauternes. Sublime.

Most expensive bottle was a Quinta da Noval Colheita 2007. Colheitas are vintage dated Tawnies and I was expecting something over and above a normal tawny. It's good, I'm finishing it off now, but probably too subtle for me. Being laid low with a bad cold doesn't help.
Title: Re: W(h)ine
Post by: Slim on December 30, 2022, 09:28:01 PM
Just realised I haven't had a bottle of port this year. We went on a tour of a port house in Porto and they gave us some lovely stuff to sample.


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Title: Re: W(h)ine
Post by: Slim on January 10, 2023, 10:57:48 PM
I've been drinking this, this week. Just a small glass with food in the evening. We were given it as a present. I'm not really fond of it. Despite what the bottle says, it's not what I'd call crisp. Soft and bland. A little sweet, and slightly peachy. It's OK though.

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Title: Re: W(h)ine
Post by: Matt2112 on January 11, 2023, 08:37:07 AM
Anyone had 19 Crimes?

When it started appearing on shelves seemingly everywhere I wondered whether I might try it, but the fact it was available everywhere from supermarkets to the pokiest little corner shops along with your Jacob Creeks and your Yellow Tails suggested it would be no more than average.

However, last year I was bought a bottle of its Red Wine on the anniversary of my current employment start date and, goodness me, it's actually really, really good considering its price point.

£6.99 in my village store - absolute bargain.
Title: Re: W(h)ine
Post by: Fishy on January 11, 2023, 08:57:18 AM
Had the coffee infused 19 crimes which I thought was bloody awful..
Title: Re: W(h)ine
Post by: Matt2112 on February 11, 2023, 06:57:32 PM
Finally got round to having a bottle of "The Flower and the Bee", the Spanish souson I bought with my Selfridges gift card.

It was okay; on opening, it had a very enticing smoky aroma which promised much, however on drinking it wasn't as full-bodied as I ideally like.

Next - a slightly more expensive Selfridges purchase: a Charles Smith Boom Boom Syrah from Washington State, which sounds right up my street.
Title: Re: W(h)ine
Post by: Basspedalman on February 14, 2023, 04:44:41 PM
A friend of mine has restaurants in London and he has a really talented Sommelier on his team.

Chatting to him was a revelation. Whilst they do go for serious estate bottled wines at stupid prices he told me that supermarket wine can be really good.

His main advice was to check that the label said 'Imported by' only. Most wine is imported in tankers and then bottled here and they only list a postcode "Imported by such and such and bottled at WS7 8RD etc.

Portuguese and Spanish Wines are more often bottled at source. Aldi have a Douro wine called Animus. There is now a cheap version and a reserve one. The cheaper one is only £5 and the reserve is £7. It's really good. I had an utter wine snob praising it and he couldn't believe it when he found out it was £5 from Aldi!!!

Tesco has a £5.50 range called 'Campaneo' with a Garnacha and a Tempranillo.

I just love getting a decent bottle of plonk for under £6.00. Favourite wine at the moment is also from Tesco and is again a Spanish one, it's called 'Mucho Mas'
Title: Re: W(h)ine
Post by: Nickslikk2112 on February 14, 2023, 07:10:14 PM
Quote from: Basspedalman on February 14, 2023, 04:44:41 PMTesco has a £5.50 range called 'Campaneo' with a Garnacha and a Tempranillo.

I just love getting a decent bottle of plonk for under £6.00. Favourite wine at the moment is also from Tesco and is again a Spanish one, it's called 'Mucho Mas'
The Campaneo Garnacha is particularly good. Being as my brother was over at the weekend and he wouldn't appreciate my good stuff I served it for him, he thought that he was getting the good stuff.

Mucho Mas is also good - especially when on offer - spend peanuts on the label and more money can go on the wine!
Title: Re: W(h)ine
Post by: Matt2112 on February 15, 2023, 08:44:19 AM
Toro Loco at Aldi is extraordinary value for money at less than a fiver.

In blind taste tests it compared favourably with wines ten times the price.
Title: Re: W(h)ine
Post by: Matt2112 on February 15, 2023, 09:05:10 AM
I will try the above suggestions - thanks chaps. :)
Title: Re: W(h)ine
Post by: Slim on February 15, 2023, 10:37:33 AM
Tried a Spanish Sauvignon Blanc at the weekend - again, a bit bland, needed a bit more of a kick. The NZ variety appears to be the best.
Title: Re: W(h)ine
Post by: Matt2112 on February 27, 2023, 11:19:08 PM
Quote from: Matt2112 on February 11, 2023, 06:57:32 PMNext - a slightly more expensive Selfridges purchase: a Charles Smith Boom Boom Syrah from Washington State, which sounds right up my street.

Had this over the weekend.  The first few sips had a spiciness to them that's a classic Syrah trait, which settled as I worked down the bottle,  and the more I worked down it the more velvety smooth and quaffable it got. Very enjoyable - and pretty strong too.  May well purchase another bottle.

Next up: the Joseph Swan 2012 Californian Zinfandel at a price I absolutely would not have paid had I not received that Selfridges gift card from work last Christmas.

Title: Re: W(h)ine
Post by: Nickslikk2112 on July 08, 2023, 11:49:33 PM
Had my first ever Orange wine today. It's white wine made like a Red wine - the fermenting wine is kept in contact with the grape skins - and was it ever different! It did actually smell a bit orangey, but tasted like a cross between a Scrumpy cider and an American IPA.

Went very well with a Chicken Satay Curry.
Title: Re: W(h)ine
Post by: David L on July 09, 2023, 09:17:27 AM
Quote from: Nickslikk2112 on July 08, 2023, 11:49:33 PMHad my first ever Orange wine today. It's white wine made like a Red wine - the fermenting wine is kept in contact with the grape skins - and was it ever different! It did actually smell a bit orangey, but tasted like a cross between a Scrumpy cider and an American IPA.

Went very well with a Chicken Satay Curry.
Well, I like scrumpy cider and I like American IPA. I'll pop into my local Nisa and grab a bottle
Title: Re: W(h)ine
Post by: Matt2112 on July 09, 2023, 07:51:15 PM
Quote from: Matt2112 on February 27, 2023, 11:19:08 PMNext up: the Joseph Swan 2012 Californian Zinfandel at a price I absolutely would not have paid had I not received that Selfridges gift card from work last Christmas.

Well, perhaps its relative priciness raised my expectations artificially high, but I didn't really enjoy this all that much until I got very near to the end of the bottle (the stronger than average ABV possibly influencing that).

It seemed overly complex, not terribly quaffable and for the most part I was actually craving a bottle of 19 Crimes, which is almost a tenth of the price from the village shop. Ah well.

Title: Re: W(h)ine
Post by: Nickslikk2112 on July 09, 2023, 09:54:40 PM
Quote from: Matt2112 on July 09, 2023, 07:51:15 PM
Quote from: Matt2112 on February 27, 2023, 11:19:08 PMNext up: the Joseph Swan 2012 Californian Zinfandel at a price I absolutely would not have paid had I not received that Selfridges gift card from work last Christmas.

Well, perhaps its relative priciness raised my expectations artificially high, but I didn't really enjoy this all that much until I got very near to the end of the bottle (the stronger than average ABV possibly influencing that).

It seemed overly complex, not terribly quaffable and for the most part I was actually craving a bottle of 19 Crimes, which is almost a tenth of the price from the village shop. Ah well.


Californian wines do tend to be overpriced.

A good wine can take time to open up though. My dad when he was Finance Director and Company Secretary  where he worked, took it upon himself to procure the wines drunk at Board Meeting lunches (when the company was taken over by the French, the Frogs were impressed by his choices)

He would always open one last bottle, have a glass then bring the rest home to share with me. One time it was a Morey St Denis Premier Cru. He brought it back saying he was not impressed. Well all I can say is that a few hours later it was sensational, I could fully understand why people are prepared to pay big money for red Burgundy. I've never had any Pinot Noir come close to that since.
Title: Re: W(h)ine
Post by: Nickslikk2112 on July 23, 2023, 11:46:58 PM
Had my first ever bottle of Lebanese Rosé tonight. Had Lebanese reds before - mainly Musar - but this onde from Massaya was very good. Think I'd chilled it down too far as it opened up over a couple of hours, really intense red fruit flavours with a peppery edge to it.
Title: Re: W(h)ine
Post by: Nickslikk2112 on August 04, 2023, 09:20:25 PM
Drinking a glass of la Gitana Manzanilla en Rama. Lovely real Sherry, bottle fresh from the cask with no filtration. Smooth and dry, bready and yeasty with a salty tang to it. A perfect aperitif.
Title: Re: W(h)ine
Post by: Matt2112 on August 06, 2023, 10:28:33 PM
A Tesco's Finest Primitivo, was about £8.00 after a Clubcard discount.

Enjoyed it thoroughly - a full-bodied and peppery affair that gave a pleasant "buzz" from its 14% ABV.

I was thinking after this that I don't think I've ever had a Primitvo I didn't like; but then I remembered a Primitivo is basically Zinfandel by another name, and the 2012 Californian Joseph Swan bottle I got for relatively silly money (albeit via a gift voucher) wasn't that good.
Title: Re: W(h)ine
Post by: Nickslikk2112 on November 01, 2023, 10:01:07 PM
On Monday night, being a good cyclist, I couldn't turn down the chance to drink a bottle of Tom and the Peloton a wine from the Ventoux appellation. Mont Ventoux of course being where Tom Simpson expired from a cocktail of brandy and amphetamines.
Title: Re: W(h)ine
Post by: Slim on March 16, 2024, 09:47:10 PM
I bought this in Tesco on Friday, just to try a bourbon-cask-aged wine. A bit more expensive than I'd usually pay. Really nice. The bourbon taste is subtle.


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