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Title: Jeff Beck Has Died
Post by: Slim on January 11, 2023, 10:31:51 PM
One of the pantheon of British guitar greats from the '60s, with Clapton, Page and Peter Green. And Ronnie Wood IMO but that's another discussion possibly.

Saying that the word "genius" is overused is overused, but I don't think I'm overusing it here if I mention that it definitely wasn't overused in Jeff's case. He had a control of his instrument that few other players have come close to. Made his name as a rocker but absolutely brilliant at modal jazz / fusion from the mid '70s on, after being inspired by John McLaughlin.

A massive influence on other players as well; you'd be hard pushed to find a rock player from the '70s who didn't cite him as an influence. Alex Lifeson did.

I was listening to Scatterbrain and a couple of other tunes from Blow by Blow only on Sunday. That one and Wired are the essential Beck for me.

Awful loss.
Title: Re: Jeff Beck Has Died
Post by: pdw1 on January 11, 2023, 10:57:30 PM
A terrible loss of a great great musician. I am so glad I did manage to see him live. What he could do with a guitar was unbelievable. And he was still putting out great albums right to the end. Listen to Loud Hailer it is no coffee table blues, it is still screaming to tell you things musically and lyrically.

One of the all time greats. RIP
Title: Re: Jeff Beck Has Died
Post by: Nick on January 11, 2023, 11:08:21 PM
Glad I got to see him play, as Slim stated he was a true genius.
Title: Re: Jeff Beck Has Died
Post by: The Picnic Wasp on January 11, 2023, 11:16:11 PM
Very sad to hear of his passing. I'm ashamed to admit that I didn't really ever connect to his career in a record buying sense, despite realising how incredibly gifted he was. Put it down to a lazy aural palate. He must be one of the most quoted as having been a huge inspiration by just about any famous guitarist you can name.

R.I.P
Title: Re: Jeff Beck Has Died
Post by: Nickslikk2112 on January 11, 2023, 11:44:13 PM
Gutted I missed him in Sheffield.

RIP Jeff
Title: Re: Jeff Beck Has Died
Post by: captainkurtz on January 11, 2023, 11:46:59 PM
Quote from: Nickslikk2112 on January 11, 2023, 11:44:13 PMGutted I missed him in Sheffield.

RIP Jeff
Had a ticket to see him in Gateshead - the last of my bucket list gigs - should have been 2020, then 2021, happened in 2022 when I was in Barcelona.  Gave the ticket to my brother.

An all time great.  Always looked cool as feck as well.
Title: Re: Jeff Beck Has Died
Post by: David L on January 12, 2023, 12:44:23 AM
Bacterial meningitis.

I went to see him at Oxford Apollo, probably getting on for  five or six years ago. I had no real knowledge of his stuff, unfortunately, so I didn't really get him at all. I came away wondering what all the fuss was about.

Well, about two or three years ago I bought a pre-owned copy of Blow by Blow and it really struck a chord. I've since bought Wired (which is arguably as good) and There and Back, which is dripping in eighties vibe/production and doesn't come anywhere near the other two. Like Slim, I'd say most would rank Blow by Blow and Wired as the peak of his output.

Seemed to play the game on his own terms and appeared to have hugely enjoyed his career in music which gave him huge respect from other players and musicians which resulted in many collaborations. Might be fair to describe him as the guitar hero's...guitar hero.

78 is not a bad innings, especially for a rock 'n' roller like Beck, who has probably done his fair share of drinking and smoking (if only passively)

I should have taken more of an interest years ago but jazz fusion is part of a fairly recent broadening of my musical tastes.

An enigma. Jeff had his own style, great hair and a face like a welder's bench but boy, did he know his way around a geetar.

RIP
Title: Re: Jeff Beck Has Died
Post by: Matt2112 on January 12, 2023, 01:25:02 PM
A player whose work I'm very patchily familiar with at best - when I was "discovering" great guitar players in my youth, it pretty much exclusively encompassed the prog and hard rock pioneers of the 80s, so Jeff Beck wasn't on my radar, even though many of those guitarists who left me awestruck stood on his shoulders. In those days I exclusively associated him with Hi Ho Silver Lining, a song that was a staple of family function discos, and I really didn't like it (I don't mind it at all nowadays).

An iconic player though, undoubtedly, and a great loss.  I will put some time aside to belatedly investigate his most recommended works.

 
Title: Re: Jeff Beck Has Died
Post by: Slim on January 12, 2023, 02:10:47 PM
Jeff's hair is the most baffling enigma of popular music. There's no way, IMO, that a barnet as thick and lustrous as that could have been the genuine article atop a gentleman in his '70s.

And yet there's no Ritchie Blackmore (or Paul Rodgers) moment when an evidently threadbare coiffure is suddenly superseded by a full thatch.

Unless Jeff was already benefitting from some discreet synthetic tonsorial assistance when he was in The Yardbirds? I suppose it's possible.

Title: Re: Jeff Beck Has Died
Post by: Slim on January 12, 2023, 02:15:40 PM
Title: Re: Jeff Beck Has Died
Post by: David L on January 12, 2023, 03:27:19 PM
Quote from: Slim on January 12, 2023, 02:10:47 PMJeff's hair is the most baffling enigma of popular music. There's no way, IMO, that a barnet as thick and lustrous as that could have been the genuine article atop a gentleman in his '70s.

And yet there's no Ritchie Blackmore (or Paul Rodgers) moment when an evidently threadbare coiffure is suddenly superseded by a full thatch.

Unless Jeff was already benefitting from some discreet synthetic tonsorial assistance when he was in The Yardbirds? I suppose it's possible.



The seamless transition from natural hair to a syrup is indeed a tricky one (see our own Mr Lifeson). I'd never considered Jeff's barnet to be of dubious origin because his style had steadfastly remained the same throughout his entire adult life.

As to your speculation that he was trichologicaly compromised early doors, that (IMHO) seems unlikely. I don't think the technology existed in the sixties to enable such a convincing cover-up. I reference Reg Dwight's early efforts which were atrocious right up until only fairly recently.

To have kept that a secret for that long would surely have been an achievement comparable to the level he attained in the mastering of his chosen instrument
Title: Re: Jeff Beck Has Died
Post by: Fishy on January 12, 2023, 05:10:23 PM
Sad.. another artist who kind of passed me by but as Slim says the go to albums for me as well are Wired and Blow by Blow. Also have a live album with Jeff and the Jan Hammer Band

Will need to revisit all of the above
Title: Re: Jeff Beck Has Died
Post by: Thenop on January 12, 2023, 05:19:11 PM
Sad news indeed. Was not on my radar to be honest until Roger Waters' Amused to Death on which he played some interesting parts.

Must look i to at least his eay solo work, Beck-Ola for instance.
Title: Re: Jeff Beck Has Died
Post by: David L on January 12, 2023, 06:11:46 PM
Nice obituary from Variety:

https://variety.com/2023/music/news/jeff-beck-guitarist-dead-dies-1235486491/
Title: Re: Jeff Beck Has Died
Post by: The Picnic Wasp on January 12, 2023, 06:15:31 PM
Strangely, my most played Jeff Beck song is a performance of Cause We've Ended As Lovers. I've watched this several times on YouTube because it features Tal Wilkenfeld on bass. She's a fantastic player. I hadn't heard the story behind the song until today though. It was written by Stevie Wonder who gave it to Jeff as an apology. He wrote Superstition for Jeff but his record company insisted it was too good to give away and made Stevie record it himself. He was such an effortless player when you consider the histrionic behaviour of many lesser talents.

Title: Re: Jeff Beck Has Died
Post by: pdw1 on January 12, 2023, 06:37:24 PM
Quote from: Thenop on January 12, 2023, 05:19:11 PMSad news indeed. Was not on my radar to be honest until Roger Waters' Amused to Death on which he played some interesting parts.

Must look i to at least his eay solo work, Beck-Ola for instance.
The later stuff is worth checking out too. Try Loud Hailer, its great.
Title: Re: Jeff Beck Has Died
Post by: Fishy on January 12, 2023, 06:41:18 PM
How much of his own stuff did he actually write?
Title: Re: Jeff Beck Has Died
Post by: pdw1 on January 12, 2023, 06:59:27 PM
Quote from: Fishy on January 12, 2023, 06:41:18 PMHow much of his own stuff did he actually write?
I think it would be fair to describe him as a radical interrupter of other peoples songs
Title: Re: Jeff Beck Has Died
Post by: pdw1 on January 12, 2023, 09:36:54 PM
Quote from: pdw1 on January 12, 2023, 06:59:27 PM
Quote from: Fishy on January 12, 2023, 06:41:18 PMHow much of his own stuff did he actually write?
I think it would be fair to describe him as a radical interrupter of other peoples songs
oh well you know what I mean and spell checker wont let me say  ;D
Title: Re: Jeff Beck Has Died
Post by: Slim on January 13, 2023, 11:21:16 AM
He did write some of the Jeff Beck Group material. Contributed to some of the tunes on the later jazz-based stuff, but more the jam-based or funky groove tunes.
Title: Re: Jeff Beck Has Died
Post by: Slim on January 13, 2023, 01:50:24 PM
Quote from: Slim on January 11, 2023, 10:31:51 PMOne of the pantheon of British guitar greats from the '60s, with Clapton, Page and Peter Green. And Ronnie Wood IMO but that's another discussion possibly.

Thinking about it, these brilliant players who blazed a trail for guitar music in the '60s and '70s all came from a pretty tight musical family tree .. Clapton, Beck and Page were all in The Yardbirds. Clapton left The Yardbirds to join the Blues Breakers, eventually replaced by Peter Green. And Ronnie Wood was the bass player in the Jeff Beck Group.

All from the SE of England as well.
Title: Re: Jeff Beck Has Died
Post by: pdw1 on January 14, 2023, 06:44:09 PM
Have a look at this:
September 2022 Texas
https://youtu.be/A36T_RTPJYc
78 and still playing incredible stuff. Still on top of his (or anyone else's) game
Title: Re: Jeff Beck Has Died
Post by: Slim on January 20, 2023, 08:50:53 PM
Famous guitar players eulogise about Jeff Beck - in a video posted to YouTube a few months before he died, which makes it a bit more sincere.


Title: Re: Jeff Beck Has Died
Post by: David L on January 20, 2023, 09:24:09 PM
A great video on why Jeff's playing was so unique


And another cool one courtesy of Rick Beato


Title: Re: Jeff Beck Has Died
Post by: David L on January 20, 2023, 09:49:16 PM
Quote from: Slim on January 20, 2023, 08:50:53 PMFamous guitar players eulogise about Jeff Beck - in a video posted to YouTube a few months before he died, which makes it a bit more sincere.



Great!
With Luke, I struggle to get past the size of his swede  :o