Quote from: Slim on November 11, 2022, 11:41:23 AMCan't say I agree with much of what he says myself. Actually some of what he says is misleading or untrue, for example he claims that there's "never been a satisfactory explanation" for extending the vaccine programme to the whole population when this was debated, discussed and justified ad nauseam.

Of course, there was an explanation put forward for extending the vaccine to the whole population but by Pfizer's own admission there was no evidence to support it

Quote from: Slim on November 11, 2022, 11:41:23 AMI'm really not inclined to take matter-of-fact statements like this from two MPs with no background whatever in public health or medicine, especially when an idiot like Kruger who didn't have the sense to wear a face covering on public transport at the height of the pandemic goes on to lecture Chris Whitty about medical ethics.

Taking his lead from the PM at the time, no doubt:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/boris-johnson-mask-train-hospital-b1962180.html

 

Quote from: David L on November 11, 2022, 02:00:07 PMOf course, there was an explanation put forward for extending the vaccine to the whole population but by Pfizer's own admission there was no evidence to support it

That's a half-truth at best. Pfizer didn't test whether the vaccines reduced transmission from people who were already infected, but their trials did show that their vaccine reduced the risk of infection.

So it follows that they knew their vaccine reduced transmission in two ways - by directly preventing vaccinated people from getting COVID, and by preventing the same people from passing it onto other people irrespective of their vaccine status.

Quote from: Slim on November 11, 2022, 02:45:12 PMThat's a half-truth at best. Pfizer didn't test whether the vaccines reduced transmission from people who were already infected, but their trials did show that their vaccine reduced the risk of infection.

The truth and Pfizer have been uneasy bedfellows in the past

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-announces-largest-health-care-fraud-settlement-its-history

Got round to having my booster today. Don't feel boosted.

Had the booster and flu jab last week on the same day but different arms. The covid jab was the more painful the following day.

Arm is now tender, but when I went for my jab I got a free blood pressure check thrown in - apparently they're doing it for over 40s to see if they need checking out. Mine was perfect.

Dr John Campbell discusses the results of a large-scale trial involving vitamin D. Not surprisingly the results show its effectiveness against Covid-19.
Whitty, Valance, Hancock et al should have been advocating supplements of vitamin D from the start - no money in it 

Excess deaths still concerning:

BMJ analysis of excess deaths here

https://www.bmj.com/content/379/bmj.o2524

Short version (since most people in the comments under Nurse Campbell's video seem to have taken a different view): nothing to do with the vaccines.

Quote from: Slim on November 24, 2022, 10:53:29 AMBMJ analysis of excess deaths here

https://www.bmj.com/content/379/bmj.o2524

Short version (since most people in the comments under Nurse Campbell's video seem to have taken a different view): nothing to do with the vaccines.

That's a relief......for those that have been vaccinated. Btw, did you have your latest booster?

Quote from: David L on November 24, 2022, 11:10:43 AM

Quote from: Slim on November 24, 2022, 10:53:29 AMBMJ analysis of excess deaths here

https://www.bmj.com/content/379/bmj.o2524

Short version (since most people in the comments under Nurse Campbell's video seem to have taken a different view): nothing to do with the vaccines.

That's a relief......for those that have been vaccinated. Btw, did you have your latest booster?

I'm going to leave it another few weeks to extend my immunity a bit. Seems a waste to overlap it with a period of tried & tested natural immunity.

Quote from: David L on November 24, 2022, 11:10:43 AM

Quote from: Slim on November 24, 2022, 10:53:29 AMBMJ analysis of excess deaths here

https://www.bmj.com/content/379/bmj.o2524

Short version (since most people in the comments under Nurse Campbell's video seem to have taken a different view): nothing to do with the vaccines.

That's a relief......for those that have been vaccinated. Btw, did you have your latest booster?

Booster due very soon.  Maybe this particular vaccine will increase my chances of a serious adverse outcome by a factor of 100 to, erm, 0.01%, or, should this alarming stat put me off, maybe I could catch another unmitigated dose of the "Rona" and, far more likely, suffer an outcome where I wind up taking up a hospital bed this time.

I reckon I'll play the percentages again...for the fourth time.

Yesterday I had the latest Pfizer vaccine in my left arm and the latest winter flu jab in my right. 

Feeling slightly ropey today, but reasonably functional.

Feeling much better today; quite chipper in fact!

Quote from: Matt2112 on November 27, 2022, 10:24:47 AMFeeling much better today; quite chipper in fact!

I was so delighted that was given the Moderna vaccine last time around, but it wiped me out for two days. Hadn't had such a bad reaction before. Perhaps that's a good sign.