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#1516
Other Music / Re: 44 Days
June 03, 2022, 12:12:31 PM
I do like Superunknown, and it propelled them into stardom, but to me Badmotorfinger has never been topped.
#1517
Other Music / Re: Motorpsycho
June 03, 2022, 12:10:56 PM
Quote from: Slim on June 03, 2022, 11:56:03 AMI have Let Them Eat Cake. That's a great record, especially this tune


Couldn't agree more, on of my favourites. The follow up Phanerothyme (the title no one ever remembers) is in similar style. Very good.
#1518
Other Music / Motorpsycho
June 03, 2022, 11:31:07 AM
To those in the know:
19 August, new album to be released: Ancient Astronauts. Already excited!
#1519
Other Music / 44 Days
June 03, 2022, 11:10:19 AM
So I saw a picture of a stack of cassettes form the 90's and it had as text:
'released within 44 days from each other' It was flaoting around the social media, so I guess more people will have seen that.
I was quite taken aback to be honest, at the time I did not realize it but this must be one of the most succesful streaks of all time. Obviously the music is most important here, but I think it shows us how the industry has changed. It intrigued me to the extent I just had to look this up. So here goes (give or take few 100.000 copies, which is nothing in the greater scheme), worldwide sales for 7 albums in 1991:

Metallica - Black Album           31 million
Nirvana - Nevermind               30 million
Guns 'n' Roses - UYI 1            18 million
Guns 'n' Roses - UYI 2            18 million
Pearl Jam - Ten                   15 million
RHCP - BSSM                       13 million
Soundgarden - Badmotorfinger       2 million


That is a 127 million copies since release, of which most were sold in the first year or so, which is massive.

So what about the music?

Well honestly, Nirvana's Nevermind was a thing of it's time, never did a lot for me to be honest (but I do like In Utero a whole more than nevermind) but I appreciate it for what it is: a game changer. And also, honestly? I was glad to see all that puffed up hair metal crap gone. Most of it was terrible, let's be honest, and the good ones, well they survived.

Metallica then, I was a huge fan at the time and really needed to swallow this...it was ehm..different. Radio friendly Metallica But I think the time has been kind and it still sounds awesome, because production wise, this was a game changer as well. Saw them several times that tour, and the shows seemed to get bigger every time. Good memories!

GNR then, the 2 album scam. Because a double album would have cost about 75% of what the price was for 2 albums. They managed to basically screw everyone over with that one....having said that, there is more than 1 decent album spread over 2 discs, so that justifies it a little bit. But nothing justities Don't Cry 2 times. They lost some swagger with Steven Adler gone, but they were a tight unit with Matt Sorum. Saw them on that tour more than once as will, again good memories but in reality, nowadays I never listen to these 2 discs. If I feel the need to hear GNR, I pick up Appetite...

RHCP - learned to appreciate them. This album is good, but it is overly long. What else can I say? Frusciante is a brilliant guitar player, Kiedis a horrible singer. Fantastic live band though, saw them on a festival around that time and they below everyone away.

Pearl Jam - Ten. Well can be said about the album that can never be topped? That it is beneath that thick layer of echo, delay & reverb, simply a classic rock album. And a very good one at that. I have the remix as well, and it brings it a little more to the surface, but I think the orignal mix still is a great listen. I listen to it, every now & then, but not a great deal.

No I think the album I listen to most out of these 7 is Soundgarden. I LOVE that album, it has nothing to do with grunge, zero, nada. This is metal, pure & simple, with a brilliant vocalist, superb songwriting on this (all downhill from here!) and all that knotty & twisty odd time signatures stuff on here: bring it on. They went out of their way to make an album as inaccesible as possible and still sold well over 2 million copies and managed to gain the attention of the general public in spite of the 125 million copies sold of the afore mention bands. I applaud them for that, and more importantly, for the music itself. Because out of the 7 albums, this one resonates with me most.

#1520
Food and Drink / Re: Vegetarian/vegan meals
June 03, 2022, 10:12:47 AM
I am a vegetarian, for a long time now. And it is very true that it used to be about just finding what you could get. The whole fancy subsitute meat thing really took off only a few years ago. They simply created a market for it, and it worked apparently.
Before that is was mostly veggie burgers, tofu & tempeh. Mind you, I love tempeh, used for nearly everything. Smoked tofu also: brilliant stuff.
And yes I do eat the occasional substitute but they are usually very salty.
Easy subsitutes are beans & mushrooms for me. And generally speaking just a lot of green vegetables.
#1521
Other Music / Re: So what are you listening to?
June 02, 2022, 03:50:50 PM
Quote from: pxr5 on June 02, 2022, 01:03:15 PMMotorpsycho - Kingdom of Oblivion

Compliments on your exquisite taste
#1522
Literature / Re: Bought a book recently?
June 01, 2022, 07:05:11 PM
Electric Wizards - JR Moores.
A real tour of heavy music in general, not just heavy metal, with a lot of bands usually not featured prominently.

Ah, I see the subtitle is 'a tapestry of heavy music 1968 to the present'. First chapter starts with how Paul McCartney sort of single handedly invented heavy music by writing Helter Skelter. Not sure about that, but it's a good starting point.
#1523
Album Reviews / Re: No Sleep til Hammersmith
June 01, 2022, 06:27:31 PM
Quote from: Slim on May 31, 2022, 06:44:19 PMWhen I think of the live albums I loved - Live & Dangerous, All The World's A Stage, Yessongs, Alive!, Alive II, the Mahogany Rush live album and perhaps one or two others I've forgotten about - No Sleep just isn't one of them. I did buy it when it came out but I probably listened to it three or four times, if that.

I'd seen them at least five times before it came out and always had a good time so I'm not sure why it didn't click, really. Perhaps that's partly why. The Motorhead concert experience held no mystique for me because I'd done it at a little club in Middlesbrough, the Mayfair at Newcastle, Bingley Hall, and Newcastle City Hall a couple of times.

It did come out a couple of years after those other live albums I loved and it might be that my attention span wasn't up to it by 1981. I was going out with my first girlfriend by then and I didn't have that much time. If I think about it now I must admit that that practice of immersing myself in a live album pretty much ended in my 20s. It was a real escape when I was a sullen and withdrawn teenager.

Can't help but think that by the early '80s the MWoBHM had started and even though Lemmy insists not being a part of it, he did have a profound effect on all of them. Cosidering it like that, it is really a different era than the albums you mention. I love Alive/II for obvious reasons, AtWaS (the best rush live album) but this is really a new dawn for me. As pre cursor to Live After Death, in the realm of Unleashed in the East and The Eagle has Landed but I can surely see why it failed to resonate with you.
(see how I navigated around the age thing there ;D )
#1524
Other Music / Re: So what are you listening to?
June 01, 2022, 05:57:16 PM
Thelonious Monk - Les Liaisons Dangereux on LP, absolutely breathtaking quality this.
#1525
Album Reviews / Re: No Sleep til Hammersmith
May 31, 2022, 04:36:42 PM
It's one of the classics to me as well. Like you I purchased the boxset, on LP. I think I bought this first in the mid 80's as part of a Mid Price series and fell in love with it immediately. It just speaks to you...or not. There's plenty of folk that 'don't get it'. The energy of the show, the excitement, the speed of playing and interestingly enough, the accuressy (sp?) is fantastic. It would never hold up if they played sloppy.

I am a huge fan of Metropolis and Capricorn, the slow burners on the album. I love the intro to the Road Crew, classic MH   ;D

Interestingly, as much as people make reference to Motorhead as 'metal' Lemmy has always maintained he played Rock 'n' Roll.

Oh and Jonners: played loud on a more than decent system will only appreciate it more, trust on that one!

#1526
Other Music / Rip Alan White
May 26, 2022, 08:51:43 PM
How sad, 72 years old Alan White has passed. I knew him best for his work with Yes.
#1527
Sport / Re: Football
May 26, 2022, 06:11:54 AM
Not a great game with an unfortunate result, so be it, we had a fantastic run!
#1528
Sport / Re: Football
May 25, 2022, 05:48:40 PM
First European final for my team in 20 years tonight. C'mon FEYENOOOOOOOORD!
#1529
Other Music / Re: Bought any Vinyl Recently?
May 21, 2022, 06:35:08 PM
Too much again as of lately, but just today my pre-order for David Sylvian's Sleepwalkers arrived. Delighted with such a quality pressing, dead silent vinyl, fantastic dynamic range. Best of all: my favourite collab track of his is on here: World Citizen, with Ryuichi Sakamoto.
Earlier this week: the new Blut Aus Nord (yes very hallucinogetic black metal again) and Lee Morgan the Rumproller.
And yes I do realize how all over the place this selection is  :P
#1530
Other Music / Re: So what are you listening to?
May 21, 2022, 06:31:28 PM
Astra - The Weirding, in a way a predecessor to Birth. Again, very proggy and 'shroomy' if you know what I am getting at. Currently on a 15 and a half minute trip that is the title track.