Without wishing to step into a minefield - is this latest scandal, in which a BBC presenter, as yet unidentified, is said to have paid a 17 year old for naughty pics a bit of an overreaction?
I didn't understand why the police had been involved given that the age of consent is 16, but apparently taking pics makes all the difference.
I mean clearly it's embarrassing and distasteful, but headline news?
Nicky Campbell and Jeremy Vine have both been in touch with their lawyers after being falsely implicated in this by a malicious anonymous Twitter account - apparently the same one - and someone will be forking out a large sum of money, I suspect.
Don't drink and tweet.
Beggars belief that, whoever the culprit is, they'd think they wouldn't get caught out.
Hope those that are falsely accusing on Twitter or wherever get prison terms.
Quote from: Slim on July 09, 2023, 10:32:03 PMWithout wishing to step into a minefield - is this latest scandal, in which a BBC presenter, as yet unidentified, is said to have paid a 17 year old for naughty pics a bit of an overreaction?
I didn't understand why the police had been involved given that the age of consent is 16, but apparently taking pics makes all the difference.
I mean clearly it's embarrassing and distasteful, but headline news?
The fact that his livelihood is funded by the licence payer is significant
I'm going off on a bit of a tangent here, and it's not something I care about - I just think it's an interesting double standard in the law.
Let's say you're 24, but your girlfriend is 17. You can fondle and look at your girlfriend's naughty bits as closely and as often as you like as long as she's OK with it, but if you take a pic, just as a personal and private memento, you've committed a serious crime. Is that reasonable?
Quote from: Slim on July 10, 2023, 02:28:03 PMI'm going off on a bit of a tangent here, and it's not something I care about - I just think it's an interesting double standard in the law.
Let's say you're 24, but your girlfriend is 17. You can fondle and look at your girlfriend's naughty bits as closely and as often as you like as long as she's OK with it, but if you take a pic, just as a personal and private memento, you've committed a serious crime. Is that reasonable?
Perhaps, because you can never be assured that it will remain a personal and private memento (?)
Quote from: Slim on July 10, 2023, 11:46:55 AMNicky Campbell and Jeremy Vine have both been in touch with their lawyers after being falsely implicated in this by a malicious anonymous Twitter account - apparently the same one - and someone will be forking out a large sum of money, I suspect.
Don't drink and tweet.
There was a lawyer on the radio talking about this and it may be that people might be creating an assumption of guilt.. if enough come out and say it's not me then by nature people will start to look at those who haven't said anything and start jumping to conclusions by the very fact they have said nothing.. worlds gone mad .. bloody social media.
Some relief for Schofield (this time not of the sexual variety)
I've taken my best guess. I suspect it won't be long before I know whether it was a good one!
The builder working at my house at the minute showed me the bottom of the alleged perpetrator this afternoon. Mad.
Surely by process of elimination one could likely work out who it is as there are so many saying "it isn't me". I mentioned a name to my wife when we first heard about this and nothing heard from them so far. Can we run a sweepstake? ;D
This story has taken a real turn for the bizarre, with the supposed victim's lawyer claiming that the allegations are untrue:
"For the avoidance of doubt, nothing inappropriate or unlawful has taken place between our client and the BBC personality and the allegations reported in the Sun newspaper are rubbish"
Quote from: Slim on July 10, 2023, 07:39:38 PMThis story has taken a real turn for the bizarre, with the supposed victim's lawyer claiming that the allegations are untrue:
"For the avoidance of doubt, nothing inappropriate or unlawful has taken place between our client and the BBC personality and the allegations reported in the Sun newspaper are rubbish"
Honest as the days are long - crackheads ;D
The satirical website News Thump has an article that is surely an instant classic:
"Tabloid that paid a 16-year-old girl to quit school and pose for topless photos remains straight-faced while trying to expose BBC presenter who paid a 17-year-old for photos
The Sun newspaper today remains entirely straightfaced, despite a long and distinguished career spent paying vast amounts of money to potentially vulnerable teenagers to take their clothes off and be photographed".
Did The Sun ever do topless shots of anyone under 18?
Oh yes, they did!
(https://i.ibb.co/tDhpVdk/sam-fox16.jpg)
To be fair I don't think tits count, I assume not anyway. It's a law that surely needs the application of a bit of common sense.
This is beginning to look like it could backfire badly on The Sun and Murdoch.
He was probably rubbing his hands with glee with a chance to embarrass The BBC.
Quote from: Slim on July 10, 2023, 09:50:38 PMDid The Sun ever do topless shots of anyone under 18?
Oh yes, they did!
(https://i.ibb.co/tDhpVdk/sam-fox16.jpg)
To be fair I don't think tits count, I assume not anyway. It's a law that surely needs the application of a bit of common sense.
I remember the day this was published. I was at college and someone had bought a copy. It was passed around the class (all males, by the way) and almost to a man there was sheer amazement at young Sam's chest doing a fine impression of a dead heat in a Zeppelin race. Executed with parental approval, of course.
Actually, I was always a 'less is more' kind of bloke when it came to boobs. Give me the pertness of a Suzanne Mizzi any day of the week (RIP). Nowadays, anything ending above the elbow gets a second glance.
Surely if the "victim" is saying nothing happened that's unlawful ok maybe sent some naughty pics but not pressing charges then no case to answer..
Think The Sun newspaper is looking like the fool here
(https://i.imgur.com/zUAIBB8.jpg)
Expect a statement from Gordon the Gopher later...
Difficult interview for the Director General on World at One just now. The interviewer just casually mentioned that "everyone in this building knows who it is".
I'd love to know myself! No idea.
But she says it's a "high profile figure".
It's all over social media I read.. I'd like to know who it is as well
1 in 6 people know who it is apparently.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12284653/One-six-people-know-scandal-hit-BBC-presenter-poll-finds.html
I think I know who it is, based on 5 minutes Twitter browsing. Of course I'm not going to speculate here, or anywhere else. But I'll tell you if I was right :)
Not on twitter... any clues? without falling foul of any libel legal action?
Tip - Use a VPN and search foreign news sites.
Quote from: Slim on July 11, 2023, 01:48:03 PMI think I know who it is, based on 5 minutes Twitter browsing. Of course I'm not going to speculate here, or anywhere else. But I'll tell you if I was right :)
Me too. My wife's first guess, I've since seen being mentioned on Facebook. My guess is someone else, who probably earns considerably more
Good game
Pretty sure I know too
It's got really serious now. Apparently he broke lockdown rules to meet a stranger he found on a dating site
I really think Jeremy Vine is sticking his neck out a bit here:
(https://i.ibb.co/NZkwmpC/vinecomments.png)
I mean - does the corporation really want another of their presenters to become part of the story? Certainly they're reporting his comments as news at the moment.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-66159469
Just a guess but I think the name will come out today, although for a lot of people, I'm guessing more than 1 in 6 by now, it already has.
Watched Harvey Proctor on Newsnight last night who reckoned he should do what he did and call a press conference asap
Quote from: Fishy on July 12, 2023, 10:56:57 AMWatched Harvey Proctor on Newsnight last night who reckoned he should do what he did and call a press conference asap
But Proctor knew he was innocent
Neil Parish has weighed in with his opinion now. It's not very interesting, except that he must have got dressed in the dark this morning.
(https://i.ibb.co/PDQM9dP/parish.jpg)
Quote from: Slim on July 12, 2023, 11:15:59 AMNeil Parish has weighed in with his opinion now. It's not very interesting, except that he must have got dressed in the dark this morning.
(https://i.ibb.co/PDQM9dP/parish.jpg)
On his way to shoot some clays?
It is fascinating to watch this unroll. I know virtually no BBC presenters, I hardly watch TV in the first place, but I can imagine how this would go over (and has gone in recent months) in our country. With one big difference: the name. It would always be first, the rest would follow later. We have had TV personalities 'cancelled' for having outbursts to staff and sexual innuendos but I cannot recall any of this being related to minors. I am sure there will be, people are all the same after all, so statistically it'll come to pass anytime now.
It's just such a sad state of affairs, using your stature to gain something like this.
Quote from: Thenop on July 12, 2023, 11:49:17 AMIt is fascinating to watch this unroll. I know virtually no BBC presenters, I hardly watch TV in the first place, but I can imagine how this would go over (and has gone in recent months) in our country. With one big difference: the name. It would always be first, the rest would follow later. We have had TV personalities 'cancelled' for having outbursts to staff and sexual innuendos but I cannot recall any of this being related to minors. I am sure there will be, people are all the same after all, so statistically it'll come to pass anytime now.
It's just such a sad state of affairs, using your stature to gain something like this.
Naming the individual before charges are made is grossly unfair and can ruin innocent lives
Quote from: David L on July 12, 2023, 01:53:32 PMQuote from: Thenop on July 12, 2023, 11:49:17 AMIt is fascinating to watch this unroll. I know virtually no BBC presenters, I hardly watch TV in the first place, but I can imagine how this would go over (and has gone in recent months) in our country. With one big difference: the name. It would always be first, the rest would follow later. We have had TV personalities 'cancelled' for having outbursts to staff and sexual innuendos but I cannot recall any of this being related to minors. I am sure there will be, people are all the same after all, so statistically it'll come to pass anytime now.
It's just such a sad state of affairs, using your stature to gain something like this.
Naming the individual before charges are made is grossly unfair and can ruin innocent lives
No one has ever described the Dutch of taking the moral high ground. Except from the Dutch of course.
Oh no, It is not Geddy is it?
Who got it right then?
Not me!
No criminal activity occured according to the Met. Confirmation that The Sun is a shit of a newspaper
I did think of him amongst a couple of others... yes news saying police have said no case to answer.. poor bloke
I got it right - but was one of the 5 in 6 who didn't know.
It had to be him:
The condesceding sneer - You don't know what I'm up to when I'm not on air
The money involved - I'm paid Laodsamoney for being shit and I can waste it on perving
The depression - comes on when he's about to be caught
The disappearance - stopped presenting the News at the right time.
Been saying it to Mrs S for a few days now.
Now if only I'd not lost that photo of Gary Lineker fingering a cat...
Quote from: Slim on July 11, 2023, 01:48:03 PMI think I know who it is, based on 5 minutes Twitter browsing. Of course I'm not going to speculate here, or anywhere else. But I'll tell you if I was right :)
I was, but I think anyone who cared enough to find out knew by last night.
Quote from: dom on July 12, 2023, 06:12:28 PMNo criminal activity occured according to the Met. Confirmation that The Sun is a shit of a newspaper
That's not quite what they said. The implication is that there's insufficient evidence.
I'm pleased to see News UK doing its best to hold the BBC to account.
Quote from: Slim on July 12, 2023, 07:18:44 PMQuote from: dom on July 12, 2023, 06:12:28 PMNo criminal activity occured according to the Met. Confirmation that The Sun is a shit of a newspaper
That's not quite what they said. The implication is that there's insufficient evidence.
I'm pleased to see News UK doing its best to hold the BBC to account.
Yes that's sounds fair. 5 days of "news" from that rag and the Met state that there has been
Quoteno information to indicate that a criminal offence has been committed
And it's the BBC being held to account?
Ridiculous
Not being cynical or anything, but hospitalised with severe mental issues, but still competent to 'like' a tweet suggesting The S*n needs to present evidence of criminal behaviour.
Ok.
Quote from: pxr5 on July 12, 2023, 06:03:55 PMWho got it right then?
My wife did, from the get-go with no digging. I think my guess is probably not a BBC employee and gets paid for his extensive BBC work through his own company - tax dodger
Quote from: captainkurtz on July 12, 2023, 09:34:13 PMNot being cynical or anything, but hospitalised with severe mental issues, but still competent to 'like' a tweet suggesting The S*n needs to present evidence of criminal behaviour.
Ok.
I think it was to be expected he would go for the sympathy vote. Commonplace now when you've been found out
Quote from: dom on July 12, 2023, 08:22:30 PMQuote from: Slim on July 12, 2023, 07:18:44 PMQuote from: dom on July 12, 2023, 06:12:28 PMNo criminal activity occured according to the Met. Confirmation that The Sun is a shit of a newspaper
That's not quite what they said. The implication is that there's insufficient evidence.
I'm pleased to see News UK doing its best to hold the BBC to account.
Yes that's sounds fair. 5 days of "news" from that rag and the Met state that there has been
Quoteno information to indicate that a criminal offence has been committed
And it's the BBC being held to account?
Ridiculous
No-one's suggested that the BBC have committed a crime; just that they may have failed to investigate or deal with the situation properly.
Quote from: dom on July 12, 2023, 06:12:28 PMNo criminal activity occured according to the Met.
Probably judging him by the expected actions of a Met Officer :)
QuoteConfirmation that The Sun is a shit of a newspaper
Bet you'd be fully supportive of them if it had been a Conservative minister.
Quote from: Nickslikk2112 on July 12, 2023, 09:47:46 PMQuote from: dom on July 12, 2023, 06:12:28 PMNo criminal activity occured according to the Met.
Probably judging him by the expected actions of a Met Officer :)
QuoteConfirmation that The Sun is a shit of a newspaper
Bet you'd be fully supportive of them if it had been a Conservative minister.
Depends on the Minister😂
>:(
Defund now!
https://order-order.com/2023/10/27/bbc-admits-to-biased-gb-news-bashing-newsnight-show/
I actually find the admission that they broke impartiality guidelines on one occasion more annoying than if they'd got away with it. Because it pretends that they don't do it all the fucking time
Didn't see this reported..........anywhere ;D
So unsurprised
https://news.sky.com/story/uk-eurovision-act-olly-alexander-criticised-for-signing-statement-calling-israel-an-apartheid-state-and-accusing-it-of-genocide-13035601
3000 emails revealed by the BBC, after an FOI request by journalist Andy Webb, show the extent to which they tried to cover for Martin Bashir's dishonest behaviour.
Just seen a short piece on BBC News about the film Poor Things and its multiple Oscar nominations, comprising of an interview with director Yorgos Lanthimos and lead actress/producer Emma Stone.
What should have been insightful and informative was amateurishly done; it was shockingly edited, with dumb OK! magazine-level questions (Stone simply burst out laughing at one of them) and the standard parting shot of "the best director category is still dominated by men".
To top it off there was a horrendous and unintentional crash cut back to the news host, although in fairness she wasn't sticking her middle finger up direct to camera at the time. ::)
You may well have seen this already, but Dawn Queva is a scheduler for BBC3.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13035487/Senior-BBC-employee-accused-anti-semitism-branding-Jews-Nazi-parasites-funded-holohoax-calling-white-people-virus-series-posts-social-media.html
But holocaust denial is only an occasional hobby, it seems her main interest is racism. She also posted onto her Facebook page that "white people are a parasitic, barbaric, deviant, murderous, genocidal and thieving race", and elsewhere she's described white folks as a "parasite invader subcontinental European caucasian invader species", and that it's time for us to "go back where we came from".
How does a person like this manage to get on with the white people she works with in her team?
Oh wait, it's the BBC - there might not be any.
Just a classic example of the sort of culture that the BBC cherishes and seeks to nurture. If the BBC were to be exposed to the market like every other broadcaster it would die quickly, and very good riddance. Our country would be a cleaner place.
She's gone. You do wonder how she got appointed in the first place but still...
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-68203166.amp
I note that the BBC added a subtle hint of oblique whataboutery in their press release there:
"the corporation "does not tolerate anti-Semitism, Islamophobia, or any form of abuse"
I couldn't see the faintest hint of Islamophobia in any of her posts. I did see quite a bit of hating on white folks, but unsurprisingly the corporation isn't overly concerned with that.
https://thecritic.co.uk/newsnight-and-the-rapist/
Another apology. This time for calling Reform UK "far-right"
Quote from: David L on March 19, 2024, 02:59:01 PMAnother apology. This time for calling Reform UK "far-right"
Some people are way too sensitive - especially the far right!
People on the right wing who aren't far right appear to be far right when looking from the far left.
Quote from: Matt2112 on March 20, 2024, 07:28:27 AMPeople on the right wing who aren't far right appear to be far right when looking from the far left.
Undoubtedly - the reverse is just as true
It can't be helped really. If you're standing at the far left of a room, say, everything is to your right, and vice versa.
I wonder if that's some sort of test of how politically balanced you are.
The more things you perceive to be left wing, the more right wing you are and vice versa.
The BBC is perhaps quite a good test in fact, as it appears those to the right perceive it to be left wing and those on the right to be left wing.
It's not a great test, because it's empirically left-wing.
Quite an interesting study here...
https://reutersinstitute.politics.ox.ac.uk/news/bbc-under-scrutiny-heres-what-research-tells-about-its-role-uk
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13231407/amp/MPs-demand-bias-inquiry-Mail-reveals-Gaza-doctors-centre-harrowing-BBC-report-long-time-supporters-Hamas-vile-anti-Semitic-social-media-posts-show.html
Doesn't seem very important frankly, we know by now that Israel is conducting a barbaric and inhuman ethnic cleansing operation irrespective of the source.
Quote from: Slim on March 25, 2024, 09:27:37 PMDoesn't seem very important frankly, we know by now that Israel is conducting a barbaric and inhuman ethnic cleansing operation irrespective of the source.
I thought you may find that particular example of bias a tad more acceptable
;)
Quote from: Slim on March 25, 2024, 09:27:37 PMDoesn't seem very important frankly, we know by now that Israel is conducting a barbaric and inhuman ethnic cleansing operation irrespective of the source.
'Tin-Foiler-in-Chief' has your back on this one:
https://www.newsweek.com/alex-jones-israel-mass-genocide-hamas-x-twitter-1882276
I heard a BBC commentator say that the Chelsea women's team were "down to ten men" against Barcelona earlier. There'll be a stern internal email about that on Monday, I imagine.
BBC News reports that Madonna has performed a gig in Rio de Janeiro, apparently attended by over 1 million people, describing her as "The Queen of Pop".
Nah. That's Lady Gaga nowadays isn't it?
Besides, the gig was free, which the ever-vigilantly accurate BBC somehow forgot to mention. ::)
Quote from: Matt2112 on May 06, 2024, 01:46:31 AMBBC News reports that Madonna has performed a gig in Rio de Janeiro, apparently attended by over 1 million people, describing her as "The Queen of Pop".
Nah. That's Lady Gaga nowadays isn't it?
Besides, the gig was free, which the ever-vigilantly accurate BBC somehow forgot to mention. ::)
Queen of pop? Suzi Q ;)